already inb4'd the flimsy
'b-b-but it's just a joke' excuse. if there's one thing even worse than a bigoted nazi-sympathiser, it's a bigoted nazi-sympathiser who doesn't even have the balls to stand by their (disgusting) words when called out (and not backed up by an overwhelming force of fellow bigots), claiming they didn't actually mean it...
that being said, hardly a surprise to see the alleged 'rule of law' proponent mourn a court's decision just because the party defied is a close ally - as if that makes them right by default and a ruling against them a "lack of respect" rather than an objective finding (i bet even zark doesn't see it that way). that's a truly disturbing understanding of law in general, where 'respect' and 'relation' trump principle and objectivity...
Quote (zarkadon @ 6 Apr 2018 23:30)
Federico Jiménez Losantos :rofl:
Don't worry about him, he hates Rajoy's government more than he hates separatists (for instance, in the article you linked he says that the national government is "human garbage" and "a literal shit", and that's pretty soft compared to other stuff he has said in other occasions). That guy is a far-far-far right wing nutjob that gets paid to spread bizarre conspiracy theories and insult everyone that doesn't follow his anti-EU, highly nationalist, monarchist and libertarian agenda. People who listen to him are mostly people with a questionable sense of humour, that do so for the lols... and also some crazy conspiracy theorists. He has been prosecuted several times for saying/writing the things he says/writes, often losing his trials and having to pay fines and compensation. The guy is an absolute clown and disgrace, even though I think he doesn't actually believe 90% of what he says and just does it to put on a show, I'm surprised his bullshit reached Germany :LOL:
Regarding the rebellion case, it will be interesting to see what happens now. Spain can retract the arrest order or change rebellion for sedition (he's accused of both, but rebellion overrides it). The problem with rebellion is that it requires violence, which according to the spanish judges the violence was caused by Puigdemont's actions (therefore he'd be responsible) while for the german one he can't be held accountable, but if you change it to sedition then the problem is solved. However, if he's brought back here on charges of embezzlement and sedition, and not rebellion, it would be unfair to trial the other accused on charges of rebellion... so there are people saying it would be better to retract the arrest order, judge everyone on charges of rebellion, so that if Puigdemont ever comes to Spain for whatever reason he can be arrested and trialed for rebellion too
personally i'm not 'worried' about him or his threats. like i stated before, he's OBVIOUSLY not right in the head. i'm just saying it shows the massive bias and emotional involvement that, although of course not as radical as in this particular nutjob, a lot of anti-separatists seem to have, resulting in apologetic rhetoric concerning textbook authoritarian measures and a categoric refusal to accept ANY kind of blame on "their" side.
it's also fascinating because we all know that if a deranged muslim fanatic made such comments (and i think the reason this actually reached germany is because he not just ranted and said what he personally liked to do, but called for action - and broke a taboo of most civilised cultures with his comments about guests as potential hostages) this surely would have been treated differently - and pointing out his attention-seeking and questionable mental health would have been dismissed as cheap excuses or even sympathising with terrorists. not by you, don't get me wrong, but there are plenty of 'special' people here doing that regularly...
concerning the 'dilemma' spanish justice finds itself in regarding puigdemont, this just shows how desperately they are trying to make these political arrests SEEM legitimate, while at the same time trying to punish catalonian political leaders as harshly as possible.
to the vast majority of people outside of spain it's pretty obvious that the rebellion charges are objectively bogus, the real violence was ordered and executed by madrid - but i don't expect that to prevent your courts from finding them guilty anyway. who knows, maybe your courts are truly independent (in germany for example, the highest instances regularly defy the government and make insanely principled decisions) and will give them a fair trial, but i'm not too optimistic...
This post was edited by fender on Apr 6 2018 05:57pm