It’s a smaller number than you think

The People just want to live without fear of your family being killed

Hamas prays on their fear for their own profit and power

And any opposition within Palestine is effectively destroyed by the extremely restrictive laws they have set in place

At which point they lose your support.

Not hard.

mass destruction in Gaza is as easy as buying your morning coffee in Italy. do you see those numbers on the board ? do you see us letting go and ending this with a bang much like Putin did in the past or Assad did to his own people ?

what you see in Gaza right now are power strikes. not mass destruction or genocide or anything remotely close to those things.
not my fault that d2jsp'rs can't make the difference between casualties of war in a really dense area to a genocide.

do you expect Israel to throw in 2kg missiles on those terrorists heads ? so that in this way - we would care about casualties ?

Egypt always had a choice since it's an old condition and part of what keeps the peace between us and Egypt. Egypt wants nothing to do with the Palestinians. it's been like that for decades, over and over.. they know Gaza is a hole that comes only with trouble.

the more i read comments in this section of the forum about Israel's IDF and\or our conflicts, the more i see how users in here are clueless to what's what.

if you please:
imagine a dense shithole. now double that by 40 times, take your time to imagine it, crowd several million people in it, and imagine that the ones who decide on who is doing what in this shithole are a proxy
for a country that wishes to nuke \ burn alive \ freeze to death \ drown you name it.. all of those are relevant to their own existence. they spend most of their lives on digging tunnels and hiding rockets on schools\play-grounds\hospitals ( launch sites ).
this is their goal in life.

a simple thing in life:
i don't need my rockets or to be an Iranian bitchy puppet. i will speak to Israel, they will help me build something in return for decades. i don't need the hate, the wars. i only want my freedom, my netflix, my carpet for praying, my food, my family and w\e.. i want to be calm and free.

what would happen if those terror organizations will surrender their weapon and talk ? peace. the next day.

what would happen ( in reality ) if Israel will burn the IDF and no military will be present ? a genocide.

do you see the difference between those things ?

Distinguishing between who is Hamas and who is a civilian in Gaza is extremely difficult. Most of the population there openly supports them. I mean look at cities all across the world, in Europe in the US, Canada of celebrations of Palestinians (and their allies) when footage of women being carried away to captivity or gunned down civilians began to surface. They went out and shouted for joy.

I remember years ago when the Syrian war was taking place, anytime Assad hit some rebel group stronghold, it was immediately framed as Assad hits civilian targets, literally every strike was framed as targeting civilians. The Palestinians will likely do the same. It's damn near impossible to know what percent of Palestinians are in Hamas, who they are, who helps them, what level of aid makes you culpable and a legitimate target, and so on. It will be blunt force with a lot of collateral damage, with a fair amount of combatants being labeled as civilians. But just as many civilians will die which is sad.

I'm seeing footage of injured kids in Gaza, sad af, and that's the horror of war. More of these will come out, and there is almost no way to avoid this collateral damage.

If the Israelis know that their action would cause casualties like loss of innocent human life, but they still go ahead with it anyway, then that's a depraved indifference to human life. It's not quite genocide as that is probably not their intent, but the outcomes are still the same.

The Hamas spokesman Abu Ubaida just gave an interview saying they are going to begin executing hostages and livestreaming it on social media. Hamas is also calling for a 'truce'

you are doing what you can with the time you give them. we are doing a knock-knock protocol and still people are going casualties.

this is not something that we praise. this is war\conflict that is forced upon us. this is our civilians and kids that grow up understading from youth what are terrorists, why are we running to shelters etc..
the reality is forced on us much like it's forced on a baby on the other side.

so why are we to blame ? why should i go the IDF and serve ? because unless il do it, those negbors around me - will end me and my family.

what's the most wet dream of an average Israeli ? peace, all around us.

i wanna climb mountains in Lebanon. why can't i ?
they want me dead. not me.

always always been like that. it's impossible to understand unless you live here.

Going full ISIS. Maybe Israel should drop something .

Hamas card has ended. his time is expired. his people are dead, by thousands ( some are buried too deep ).

this time, if it will take several years - Gaza is gonna be stripped from Hamas to the point they are not a thread on the southern border.

this is a very very WIDE public opinion now and acceptance in Israeli state, army, politicians. etc.

he will execute some, im sure they will.

point is - those leaders might live for 10-20 years ahead.. it does not matter since they are marked for good.

This post was edited by darksoho on Oct 9 2023 12:26pm

one sure way to swing public opinion is to drop a nuke, that would be a terrible choice.

and one sure way for hamas to swing public opinion is to start executing people live. i think its a bluff, its the only bargaining chip they have.