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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 10 2016 06:56pm)
not an argument


Oh, lord. I was hoping you would.

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Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 10 2016 09:59pm)
You're reciting shit you heard when you were young

It's sad but it's never too late to learn and grow




The story of your economic enslavement. Drink up!
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I fail to see the argument
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Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 10 2016 10:55pm)
I fail to see the argument


Democrats bribe zombies like you with other people's money in exchange for your vote.
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Democrats bribe zombies like you with other people's money in exchange for your vote.


oh

that's not an argument
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Jul 10 2016 09:25pm
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I'm not arguing it's okay to let illegal immigrants or criminals into the US. I'm simply arguing that illegal immigration is a problem that has gotten better or leveled off since 2007, not worse. That is not what Donald Trump is saying. He is being dishonest about the issue.

you have a video of trump specifically talking about data from today to 2007 or maybe he's saying in general or at a timespan of his life?
"pouring in" definitely is an accurate statement if they're still coming in in high numbers but it has slightly reduced in the last 9 years. Illegals are a drain on society either way

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Trump supporters tend to be pretty dense about this issue.

I have not argued that illegal immigration should be acceptable.

I am pointing out that Trump has been dishonest about the issue.

There is a distinction.


As if that's any different from every politician since the beginning of time.
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Jul 10 2016 09:31pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 10 2016 05:59pm)
You're reciting shit you heard when you were young

It's sad but it's never too late to learn and grow


not an argument
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yeah i've seen that figure, a lil fucking disgusting that the reason democrats win is people leeching off the system and voting for more welfare

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you have a video of trump specifically talking about data from today to 2007 or maybe he's saying in general or at a timespan of his life?
"pouring in" definitely isn't an inaccurate statement if they're still coming in in high numbers but it has slightly reduced in the last 9 years


Let's be real here. Do you think Donald Trump's rhetoric accurately reflects the real numbers?

Like I said before, reforming immigration and taking a hard stance on illegal immigration are perfectly fine stances to include on your platform.

But if you only listened to how Donald Trump talked about the issue of illegal immigration, you'd assume it's a problem that has gotten much worse, not better or leveled off.

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As if that's any different from every politician since the beginning of time.


First, we should criticize politicians for being dishonest even if every other politician is dishonest. We must not accept a baseline level of dishonesty in our leadership and government as "normal."

Secondly, Trump's dishonesty on this issue has been particularly egregious.
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Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 10 2016 11:08pm)
oh

that's not an argument


Not an argument.
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