The statistics only go up to 2013... are you high?

Pew Research is very meticulous in their methods. Their 2016 data will be out soon enough. A lot goes into their work, they are one of the best in the business.

Here are 5 facts about illegal immigration: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

Trump supporters are so used to arguing the same concepts. I'm not arguing that illegal immigration should be acceptable. I know that you wish all liberals defaulted to arguing this point on this topic. You guys are trained to argue that point, as well as others such as "Muslim is not a race."

That graph always triggers you guys so hard because it just completely destroys Donald Trump's largest talking point. Illegal immigration has gotten better since 2007 and has since leveled off, not gotten worse. That's just a fact. There are unreliable statistics out there, but Pew Research is not one of them. Highly respected and highly credible.

Even if the 2016 data shows that illegal immigration has shown a small since 2014, it's still not going to be enough to justify Trump's rhetoric on the subject. When you talk about illegals "pouring" in, they better actually be pouring in. He is being dishonest.

It's certainly okay to make immigration reform a key part of your presidential platform, I'm just saying he should go about it in a more honest manner.

There are tons of anti-immigration statistics that never see the light of day. You're obviously more moderate, but I'm tired of seeing lies biased to the other side.

Your call that he's lying is an opinion. The issue has country-wide effects and is getting worse over time.

Does that mean that republicans are unable to become scientists ? Just a thought because they should be pretty keen on publishing anti-immigration statistics.

This post was edited by Knaapie on Jul 10 2016 04:12pm

not an argument

for everyone arguing about illegals you should be slapped if you think it's acceptable. If we ignore one law we might as well ignore them all until this nation turns into the movie "THE PURGE" Anyways read an article today about how major corporations are backing out of donating to both parties this cycle. Microsoft did donate some equipment to the GOP convention though. Im looking forward to the nomination process and i hope trump picks newt or a general as his running mate

Trump supporters tend to be pretty dense about this issue.

I have not argued that illegal immigration should be acceptable.

I am pointing out that Trump has been dishonest about the issue.

There is a distinction.

Well if you look at the broad picture those are possibly millions of slave votes for the Democrats. They want to grant amnesty in exchange for votes which is a direct violation of the Constitution. The same thing goes for the black voters they vote Democrat for the freebies but clearly don't understand it's been a slave vote for a long time.

Detroit would be my example for the black vote just to clarify a city ran by democrats for over 50 years

This post was edited by stimpy6298 on Jul 10 2016 07:55pm

You're reciting shit you heard when you were young

It's sad but it's never too late to learn and grow

Ignorance is bliss when you live in that bubble isn't it boy?