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Jul 6 2020 05:41pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 07:04pm)
The thing is, everyone is aware of Fox News' extreme partisan bias, and either embraces it anyway, or watches their shows with utmost caution.
By contrast, a ton of people still think that outlets like the NYTimes or the WaPo are newspapers or record and would never publish any fake news or anything with an intentional partisan slant.


I'm glad you recognize Fox conservatives are beneath the rest of humanity.
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Jul 6 2020 05:45pm
Quote (Skinned @ 7 Jul 2020 01:41)
I'm glad you recognize Fox conservatives are beneath the rest of humanity.


CNN Democrats give them a run for their money though! :D
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Jul 6 2020 05:46pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 07:04pm)
The thing is, everyone is aware of Fox News' extreme partisan bias, and either embraces it anyway, or watches their shows with utmost caution.
By contrast, a ton of people still think that outlets like the NYTimes or the WaPo are newspapers or record and would never publish any fake news or anything with an intentional partisan slant.




Got that right. ^^
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Jul 6 2020 06:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 07:45pm)
CNN Democrats give them a run for their money though! :D


Quote (Ghot @ Jul 6 2020 07:46pm)
Got that right. ^^


Enjoy your capitalist news products.

The New Republic became garbage. I still read The Atlantic sometimes.
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Jul 6 2020 06:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 07:04pm)
The thing is, everyone is aware of Fox News' extreme partisan bias, and either embraces it anyway, or watches their shows with utmost caution.
By contrast, a ton of people still think that outlets like the NYTimes or the WaPo are newspapers or record and would never publish any fake news or anything with an intentional partisan slant.


You shouldn't pretend that everyone knows how biased and extreme Fox News is. There's millions of Americans who believe that Fox is the only fair network.

I've made this argument before, but I find it bewildering that people hypercritical of the media hold the profession up as if it's supposed to be pristine. The idea of objective journalism hasn't been around that long, and furthermore, there's no good reason to hold a group called "journalists" to an astronomically higher standard than Trump, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others. Trump and Hannity have a vastly larger audience than the NYT and WaPo, and their audience believes what they say. So if anything, they should be held even more accountable when they get the facts wrong.
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Jul 6 2020 06:36pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 6 2020 08:23pm)
You shouldn't pretend that everyone knows how biased and extreme Fox News is. There's millions of Americans who believe that Fox is the only fair network.

I've made this argument before, but I find it bewildering that people hypercritical of the media hold the profession up as if it's supposed to be pristine. The idea of objective journalism hasn't been around that long, and furthermore, there's no good reason to hold a group called "journalists" to an astronomically higher standard than Trump, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others. Trump and Hannity have a vastly larger audience than the NYT and WaPo, and their audience believes what they say. So if anything, they should be held even more accountable when they get the facts wrong.




I'd have to disagree. I think there's millions of Americans who appreciate ANY news source that ISN'T so obviously left leaning. They don't necessarily think that FOX is always fair or right, it's just the ONLY other option to MSM in general.
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Jul 6 2020 06:39pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 6 2020 04:41pm)
I'm glad you recognize Fox conservatives are beneath the rest of humanity.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 04:45pm)
CNN Democrats give them a run for their money though! :D


why america is divided.. right here
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Jul 6 2020 06:43pm
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why america is divided.. right here


i'm hearing a growing call for major media to be looked at as traitors to the nation, and every day i agree a little more.
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Jul 6 2020 06:54pm
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Jul 2020 02:23)
You shouldn't pretend that everyone knows how biased and extreme Fox News is. There's millions of Americans who believe that Fox is the only fair network.

I've made this argument before, but I find it bewildering that people hypercritical of the media hold the profession up as if it's supposed to be pristine. The idea of objective journalism hasn't been around that long, and furthermore, there's no good reason to hold a group called "journalists" to an astronomically higher standard than Trump, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others. Trump and Hannity have a vastly larger audience than the NYT and WaPo, and their audience believes what they say. So if anything, they should be held even more accountable when they get the facts wrong.


The NYT and WaPo (and other newspapers of record) have a lot of influence with the functional elites of the country. Other media might have a larger audience, but the readership of these newspapers is extraordinarily powerful. When it comes to actual power, they punch far above their weight because the persons they influence are the decision-makers instead of the anonymous masses.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 6 2020 06:56pm
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Jul 6 2020 07:10pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 6 2020 08:39pm)
why america is divided.. right here


Because I'm arguing with a Deutchlander on the internet?
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