man, u guys are missing the real point

Man... Do you hear yourself? You just ignored 3.5 years of MSM screaming at everyone that Trump colluded with Russia and stole election from Hillary...

You wrote all that for me to say wtf in a few words hahaha

Trump is the fucking Emperor and nothing will change that

Literally electing corruption right in front of us lmao... Still even says this on his Wiki page...how long until edited out? Fucking crooks

I think the media bears some responsibility for not properly educating Americans regarding the nuances involved with the investigation. However, Americans aren't interested in nuance so what can you do?

I think you are mischaracterizing the MSM in this situation. That's really not what they were doing for 3.5 years. If the media you consume is telling you that, you should find different media.

It is NOT good for the country or for democracy itself when a very sizable bloc of the electorate is denied political representation of their viewpoints and policy goals by a patronizing party establishment.

For years if not decades, the RNC had kept down the populist strains within their party. Significant parts of the base were motivated by stuff like, for example, wanting less abortions and immigration as well as a protection of the American middle class - the party elites tapped into this energy and converted it into wall street tax cuts and corporate welfare, while simultaneously losing all the culture war battles their voters cared about time and time again, usually without putting up a proper fight. The RNC establishment often times treated the populist or working-class segments of their voter base with thinly veiled contempt.



For all of you who still struggle to figure out why Trump's support is so unwavering in spite of all the scandals, erractic behavior and failures, this is the secret sauce: Trump closed this gap between what the party leader and the base want, he makes the base feel understood and respected, he makes them feel like he's their champion and genuinely putting up a fight for "their" causes instead of just being the usual pushover the base had become accustomed to. (To which extent this is actually true or just the result of Trump being an extraordinarily gifted con artist is a different debate.)

The big picture is that under Trump, the party has been more at peace with its own base than before. This imho is one of the reasons why he's been able to get high turnout which exceeds expectations, and why he was able to hang in there despite a myriad of glaring weaknesses and mistakes.
And the end of the day, giving your voters what they want is simply a good political strategy for the most part. It's surely a more potent political strategy than trying to come up with polite ways of telling your voters that they're fucking morons and horrible human beings for wanting the things that they want.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 25 2020 12:57am

But that's the point: it was a deeply political investigation since its inception. Spying on a presidential candidate's campaign is inherently political, even more so when the powers that be went out of their way to launch this investigation based on murky or even outright fabricated evidence.

The political side effect of undermining Trump, of having him tied and bogged by such an investigation, was always the main goal. Mueller was just the pawn in this game.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 25 2020 12:54am

fuck an election
all i see are walls of garbage

Again, you're mischaracterizing the investigation. If you read up on the actual investigation, you would see that it was far less political than it seems.

How was Trump "bogged down" by the investigation anyone's fault besides his own? If he turned off the TV and let his lawyers do their jobs, he wouldn't have even noticed. I mean the guy didn't even sit down for an interview with Mueller lmao. If you want to call the investigation political, you have to blame Trump first.

might read tomorrow