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Jun 9 2021 06:43pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 9 Jun 2021 22:53)
Then change Republicans to conservatives lol. I wasn't being incredibly specific when I made that quip.

They voted for Clinton because he was mirroring the worst of neoliberalism that came from the Reagan and Bush administrations. Even when they vote Democrat, they do so becasue the Democrat running is diet-Republican.


Still not very convincing. The people of Missouri switched from voting Democrat to Republican during the timeframe in question. I doubt that the policies or ideology represented by state Democrats and state Republicans completely flipped between 2000 (last year of D trifecta) and 2005 (first year of R trifecta). It rather sounds like the kind of progressive policies that would have made their life better were simply not on the menu at that time. In a two-party system, I find it hard to blame voters for the lack of alternatives presented to them, particularly when we keep in mind that MO voters did try out something else when they switched their partisan allegiance.




At the end of the day, I still disagree with your notion that these people brought their malaise onto themselves through their voting behavior, at least the one they experienced in the 90s and early 00s when you were a child.
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places like rural Missouri got shafted by globalization, neoliberalism and the transition from a labor- and commodities-driven industrial economy toward a knowledge-based post-industrial economy. [...] neither their present-day nor their past voting behavior is the root cause of their decline.


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Jun 14 2021 01:12pm
Since nobody really care bout this current administration, i'll bump this dead thread with a famous Joe Biden quote.

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Jun 14 2021 02:46pm
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/what-ilhan-omar-actually-said/619196/

I didn't follow the controversy but this article makes some decent points.
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Quote (IceMage @ 14 Jun 2021 22:46)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/what-ilhan-omar-actually-said/619196/

I didn't follow the controversy but this article makes some decent points.


If you're a politician and your statements has to be defended with the words "context is key", followed by a multi-paragraph essay, then you've lost. That's just how politics works.

But sure, let Omar keep her committee assignments. Heck, I wish the Democratic party would address this utterly racist sexist islamophobic attack on Omar by promoting her to as prominent a position as possible. The more ordinary Americans see and hear from her, the better. B)

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Dems voted for him
Most voted president in history of America.

That man represent America
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I think Democratic strategists are realizing that they have to find an alternative to Harris for 2024 in case Biden does not run again...
Harris is as unlikeable and polarizing as Hillary, but even more clumsy... with Hillary, one always had the impression that she would be a corrupt, cold-hearted bitch, but that as president, she would at least know what she's doing and run a functioning administration. I don't feel the same when imagining a president Harris.

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Man... Kamala. What a disgrace. God knows she's bout to be the new Prez like it was all planned.

You guys fucked in Murica. First a Prez that can't make the diff between Syria and Libya and then Kamala...

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these two received the most votes in history, thats all you need to know about the state of america
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