Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 10 2022 06:40pm)

A very interesting read, thanks for posting! This whole "Schedule F" scheme is big yikes. :wacko:
I totally agree with the problem diagnosis that "the nonpartisan civil service is a farce and that it has been filled with activist liberals who have been undermining GOP presidents for decades". The swamp definitely has to be drained.

But it cannot be the solution to just replace the current swamp with Trump's own swamp full of loyalists. The true solution has to lie in limiting the ability of career officials to thwart the policies and agenda of the (democratically legitimized) president via laws and guidelines; and in making sure that the political and ideological makeup of the civil service more closely reflects that of the country as a whole, rather than skewing so heavily toward technocratic liberalism.

Scaring civil servants into blind obedience or stacking the agencies with trumpists would effectively destroy the civil service, rather than restore it. And in the long run, thinking beyond a potential second Trump term, I think that it would definitely unravel the republic if the civil service was exposed to a partisan game of chess about institutional capture, with both sides trying to stuff it with as many overtly partisan henchmen as possible whenever they get the chance. Effectively, "Schedule F" means giving up on the idea that any institution can or should remain above the partisan fray.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Aug 2022 03:46)

A nice article, aligns perfectly with my take on the raid of Mar-a-Lago:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

Quote (thundercock @ 11 Aug 2022 04:49)

I agree with the premise that civil servants should be nonpartisan but I think that's difficult given that a significant portion of the Republican party is openly hostile towards many agencies. For instance, how many Republicans do you think are going to start out as a grunt worker in the EPA? What about the Department of Agriculture which is in charge of administering food stamps? Department of Education? Likewise, how many liberals do you think are going to start out as a grunt worker for ICE or CBP? I think it's actually going to get worse given that the education gap is increasing.

Like it or not, we need the swamp because it creates stability and institutional knowledge. We tried it the previous way and it was insanely corrupt and inefficient for over 100 years.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 10 2022 07:56pm)

Of course its difficult in specific agencies, but the civil service overall could be more balanced. And it has gotten worse over the past 6-10 years. The federal bureaucracy has become increasingly cheeky and overt in taking sides for Democrats and defying Republicans.

But okay, this brings us back to the first part of my proposal: laws and guidelines which clearly define the extent to which career officials can defy, thwart or slowwalk the policies of their politically appointed superiors before their insubordination becomes a fireable offense.

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Quote (Landmine @ 10 Aug 2022 23:31)

Even the liberals knew Hillary belongs in jail.

Quote (Crunkt @ Aug 10 2022 10:39pm)

you brainwashed walnut bags need to realize that the DOJ is not a partisan sector of government.

Trump wanted you to believe that, but it literally isn't true. very few government employees are there due to their political preferences.

ur all just squirming and grasping at pathetic straws as per usual and its hilarious

Quote (YeeHaw @ 10 Aug 2022 23:41)

People who actually pay attention to the news and analyze things with a glimmer of common sense can see this for what it is. If you don’t fall into that category then :unsure: dunno what to tell ya.