In my earlier reply I acknowledged he was wrongly killed and I agree that he should've been imprisoned. How did this conversation go from "being shot for resisting arrest" to "murderer didn't get due justice"? There's a disconnect somewhere....

If Antifa cuffed you, tossed you to the ground, kneeled on you neck, and had AKs pointed at your head and told you to comply, would you comply with Antifa?

Let me rephrase that. If Antfia was about to do that to you but you had a chance to escape, what would you do? Knowing they see you as their enemy and would love to kill you. Would you let them?

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 27 2020 11:25pm

The blm movement has always been about murder victims not getting justice.
You brought up reaching for something which WAS the defence the cop that killed philandro used, and he WALKED, i stated that you can use this defence to murder someone and get away with it.

This is a ridiculous comparison. Antifa's motivations would be based on personal motivations and not because I broke the law. There are checks and balances for a reason. Since antifa is a group with domestic terrorist tendencies that doesn't adhere to any laws, I would try to escape since I don't have the option to be judges by 9, only the option of being lowered by 6.

Also using the absolute extreme examples (which happens in extreme rarity) doesn't point to a massive widespread problems through the system.

Which is why I oppose defunding the police. Taking funds away from police departments when they need body cams (which I think should be mandatory) would resolve this issue. The Blake incident clearly didn't happen this way and video clearly showed they tried tasing (didn't work), wrestling (didn't work), and finally him going to his vehicle and reaching for something. Completely justified in this instance.

The cops actually do to black communities what terrified conservatives like you believe Antifa wants to do to you.

The police are personally motivated by racism and nationalism, enjoy a system of almost no checks and balances, and they are domestic terrorists who don't adhere to any laws.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 27 2020 11:54pm

I can agree with the bolded parts above.
For the third point, I don't understand why you would support Biden since he authored the '94 Crime Bill that could play a role in this.
I disagree on defunding the police and replacing some police responses with mental health workers. Any situation that requires a call to police can escalate to something that a mental health worker couldn't handle. And in order for them to handle it, I think they would need to be able to handle it as well as a standard officer.

Responding to your "antifa holding me at gunpoint" example doesn't make me a terrified conservative. Do you always use this kind of intellectual dishonesty?

Since we're making blanket statements about police, I'm sure you mean the black/other minority officers as well, right? Or is this more intellectual dishonesty?

The most fundamental reason I support Biden is because Trump has, with absolutely no exaggeration, been the most corrupt president of our, our parents, and probably our grandparents lifetimes. His interference with the justice department alone is a level of corruption that dwarfs Nixon. Additionally, he is fundamentally incompetent in the position and as a result has cost us our position in the world and has allowed dangerous enemies like China to become policy makers in our place. We will likely never be able to make good deals with other countries again because Trump has shown how dangerously unbalanced our system can be if one bad president gets into office.

I could really go on for quite a while, but when the choice is one "meh" candidate and one unacceptably terrible candidate, that's pretty obvious.

In the primary I would have voted for Bernie, but it was after Super Tuesday where Biden had basically wiped him out.


If an autistic kid is having a fit, why would you have an armed police officer with only basic first aid training respond? You wouldn't. But that's the system we have, and we've literally had cases where cops were called to assist with a mentally handicapped person and ended up shooting them. Defunding the police is an absolute necessity and is actually supported by the police as long as you call it by a different name. People hear "defund the police" and they just hear take away money, but it actually means "shift funding from police to other services to take unnecessary burden from the police"

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 28 2020 12:52am