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#501
Oct 13 2014 10:43pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 13 2014 08:57pm)
Hey atheists.  What is a good argument to act morally?  What is a good argument to follow your moral conscience?


Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.

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Oct 13 2014 10:46pm
With all your heart (not in vain) do this:

"At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

& Say this:

"And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

& Sing this:

"Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints."


& you will no longer be atheist/agnostic...

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door,
pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

"The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple."
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Oct 13 2014 10:56pm
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Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.


"For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,

even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

Praise be to God.



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Oct 13 2014 11:00pm
Quote (Mutant @ Oct 13 2014 05:09pm)
you act on it based on experience, and how it affects others
you dont need god to know not to kill or steal because you probably wouldnt like it if that happened to you

its just as simple as that but im sure they will try to find a way to warp it into something complicated and contradicting


Those who know God know:

"Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour,
working with his hands the thing which is good,
that he may have to give to him that needeth."

-Ephesians 4:28
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#505
Oct 13 2014 11:01pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Oct 14 2014 12:46am)
With all your heart (not in vain) do this:

"At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

& Say this:

"And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

& Sing this:

"Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints."

& you will no longer be atheist/agnostic...

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door,
pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

"The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple."


Quote (lodd222 @ Oct 14 2014 12:56am)
"For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age,

even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

Praise be to God.


can you translate in French please, for some reason i think i lost the few english skills i tough i had

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#506
Oct 13 2014 11:08pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Oct 13 2014 09:00pm)
Those who know God know:

"Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour,
working with his hands the thing which is good,
that he may have to give to him that needeth."

-Ephesians 4:28


this is has nothing to do with my answer to that guys question
but hey drop me another pointless quote
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#507
Oct 13 2014 11:09pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Oct 14 2014 01:00am)
Those who know God know:

"Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour,
working with his hands the thing which is good,
that he may have to give to him that needeth."

-Ephesians 4:28


Stop spamming this thread please, thanks.
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Oct 13 2014 11:16pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Oct 13 2014 09:01pm)
can you translate in French please, for some reason i think i lost the few english skills i tough i had


Or, quiconque en est au lait n'a pas l'expérience de la parole de justice; car il est un enfant.
Mais la nourriture solide est pour les hommes faits,
pour ceux dont le jugement est exercé par l'usage à discerner ce qui est bien et ce qui est mal.

- Hébreux 5:13-14

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#509
Oct 14 2014 06:57am
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 13 2014 11:32pm)
Consciousness is a feature of the world. Hedonic tone is a feature of certain conscious systems. Positive hedonic tone has intrinsic value within a conscious system and negative hedonic tone has intrinsic anti-value within a conscious system. Any one conscious system does not have any more ontological reality than any other conscious system. Therefore, objective moral values exist.


you lost me here

what?
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#510
Oct 14 2014 07:05am
Quote (duffman316 @ 14 Oct 2014 12:57)
you lost me here

what?


It's a logomachist trick to logically ascertain the existence of objective moral values. It has no actual bearing on reality and whether individuals are capable of being objective.

Objective moral values could technically exist independently of our consciousness but we have no way of knowing what they are as we are incapable of being truly objective.

tl;dr voyaging is pro at philosophy and can argue the existence of anything :P

This post was edited by Scaly on Oct 14 2014 07:06am
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