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Jan 29 2013 04:33pm
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Religious people want to believe so badly, they will ignore scientific evidence, reason, common sense and their own better judgment. Religions have perverted the meaning of the word "truth". The Websters Dictionary definition below says what the word means:

~ truth: being in accord with fact or reality ~

Many things religious people say they believe are not in accord with fact or reality. They are myths, superstition, hope, not truth. To say it is truth is a lie. In other words, most people that participate in any of the world's large, traditional religions are spreading lies and many know it, which makes them dishonest, hypocrites.


from page 11 of "The Present" at http://www.truthcontest.com/

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Rational mind: A rational mind is the only thing that separates us from the lower animals. If we do not use it, we are not using what makes us special and superior to other animals. We are giving up what makes us different from other animals. If you do not use the rational mind, you are not using the one thing you need to use to learn the truth and take the next step in evolution. Reason is what we gained in our last step in evolution. It is what makes us mankind. We now have to use it to take the next step and become spiritual beings. Use it or lose it.

When literally all of the evidence says evolution is true, and there is zero-percent hard evidence for anything else, a rational honest person has to accept the fact that we came from lower animals. It is what a rational mind would conclude.

If you do not have a rational mind, that is what is not right, not evolution.


From page 88 of The Present (with religion)

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Jan 29 2013 04:40pm
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The quoted theory defines 'truth' as the correspondence theory of truth. That presupposed that an objective reality exists. Given that human beings experience sensations and then compose those sensations in totality into a mental construct which we label perception, how do you reconcile that with your theory of truth? By your definition it is absolutely impossible for human beings to ever know the truth about anything because they experience objective reality subjectively. There would just be no way to tell if anything is factual.

I would really enjoy a response to this question.

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Jan 30 2013 06:24am
This one time I wrote a shitty book that was basically all themes from philosophy 101 rehashed into tautological form and put like 100 quotes from famous scientists and scholars all over the website that sold it. After I had six or seven junkies proofread it, I spent some time looking for morons that would read it and attempt to advance the goals (outlined in the text) through the internet.

When I was done I sat back, assessed the carnage, then made a JSP account to mock the people out spreading the message of bullshit. Trolling cannot get more professional.

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Jan 30 2013 04:00pm
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The truth is absolutely necessary: The major religions of the world have been with mankind for a long time. They have not transformed mankind or the world as they are supposed to do and promise to do. People need to see the unseen truth in them for them to do what they are intended to do. There is no other way.

Jesus said, “People honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. They worship me in vain, teaching the precepts and principles of men.”

The followers of eastern religions are doing the same thing that the followers of western religions are doing. They believe in the myths, rituals and traditions, and are blind to the truth they contain. Parts of the ultimate truth are in all of them.

Christianity: This book focuses mostly on the unseen truth in western religions, primarily Christianity, but when you can see the truth in Christianity, you will be able to see it in all religions and everywhere else in life. The truth is at the core of many myths and legends, especially when it comes to religious myths.

Only the west has enough power: America and most of the western world is Christian, so the truth must be seen in Christianity before the world can change.

http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

@Skinned : what about you read OP again ?
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The quoted theory defines 'truth' as the correspondence theory of truth.  That presupposed that an objective reality exists.  Given that human beings experience sensations and then compose those sensations in totality into a mental construct which we label perception, how do you reconcile that with your theory of truth?  By your definition it is absolutely impossible for human beings to ever know the truth about anything because they experience objective reality subjectively.  There would just be no way to tell if anything is factual.

I would really enjoy a response to this question.


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http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

@Skinned : what about you read OP again ?

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"I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is actually nothing to debate about (2+2=4 no matter what you think), the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found)."

Shit man, he's right. Nearly all of the philosophers who tackled epistemology, ontology, and metaphysics are just clueless ants compared to this book's cosmic revelation. -_-
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Jan 31 2013 03:57pm
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Intent: You cannot think your way to true life, because you cannot turn the mind off by thinking. It is a contradiction in terms, but you have to want it. You have to have the intent to get the truth and the life to get it. You have to be seeking it with all your heart for it to come to you. It comes in the form of true life and inspirations. Intent connects you to the collective unconscious or Holy Spirit as it is called by some religions. This is how you get what you want without trying.

In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link.
Carlos Castaneda

Living in the past: People want to believe what they have been taught is the truth, because their parents and grandparents and all their ancestors believed it. This is because it is tradition; it is the way it has always been. It is established and entrenched in the culture. It is not easy for people to change their view of themselves and the world. In the past, change was almost impossible for people; in some places it still is. It can even get you killed, but change is going to happen anyway; the truth cannot be stopped. As more people become educated, more people will see the truth or at least see that what they have been taught is false or incomplete, and that is the start. The past can be our best friend if the truth is seen, or our worst enemy if the truth is not seen.


From page 108 and 109 of The Present (with religion)
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Jan 31 2013 04:02pm
Has anybody ever bought this book?
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the principle of religion is like to Espiritismo codified by Allan Kardec
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People think it can never happen to them, when it is certain to happen.

People think that nothing really bad can happen to them, that it only happens to other people. This is one of the most powerful deceptions created by the mind.

The truth is everyone dies, so the worst will happen for certain. It is the same with all disasters, manmade or natural; they will happen for certain.

From page 120 of The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/window-of-opportunity.html
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