Give me one quote in the quran that says murder the non-believers. One quote all I ask.

And answer my previous question. The way you talk is so wrong. Trust you? Why would I trust you. If anything I will trust god, trust mohammad and trust jesus. Not trust you. I'm not asking you to trust me either.


This post was edited by SecondGear on Aug 23 2012 07:34pm

It was a figure of speech. Of course we are to trust God, but not allah, the true God, the God of the Bible, Jesus Christ the Lord. You never answered any of my questions and I have answered many of yours. When you answer mine, I will answer yours. explain to me why mohammad isn't a false prophet give the fact that he directly contradicts the eyewitnesses who were actually there, the historians from Jesus's day and had to murder to spread his religion and had sex with a 9 year old girl.



KORAN commands to kill infidels:


Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled

This post was edited by xfrodobagginsx on Aug 23 2012 07:39pm

...you have been reminded more than once that this is not an evangelical forum . Both of you have been reduced to childish insults about the others religion and you are both an embarassment to those respective faiths .

Well, I have not invaded his thread about islam, he has invaded my thread. I am defending it. He is the aggressive one. Are you a mod? This is the religion area.

This post was edited by xfrodobagginsx on Aug 23 2012 07:42pm

Okay First.

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

- Read the complete verse please.

Verily, those who disbelieve, and die while they are disbelievers, it is they on whom is the Curse of Allah and of the angels and of mankind, combined.

- The curse is on the disbelievers who die.

Your next quote.

Are you illiterate as well?

What don't you understand here.

190. And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V.9:36)].

191. And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

192. But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Read the context the previous and after quotes.

It is clearly saying here Fight those who fight you. Not slay anyone who is a non-believer. Clearly it says here stop fighting if they stop fighting

What don't you understand? I can go on and on about your further quotes but that would take forever.

Provide me with one quote that says Kill the disbelievers without any reason. All the quotes you gave say fight them IF tehy fight you. Not fight them for no reason. I know you will still be ignorant of this. Sadly.



Again please answer this question.



Explain to me this verse in the bible.

"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him". Deuteronomy 18.18

Is this not proof enough he talking about mohammad?

As we all know mohammad was an illiterate person. He didn't know what to write himself the words were put in his mouth.

Tell me who this line is referring to.

Thank you.

I have not insulted his religion.

In fact I respect his religion and I say congratulations to him for he knows that God does exist. Just how he worships him is wrong.

Nope. God will NEVER contradict His Word and EVERYTHING that mohammad teaches Directly Contradicts the Word of God, Therefore, mohammad is a false prophet. It's probably referring to the Apostle Paul whom God used to give the Gospel to the Gentile World.

Now answer my question.

You don't know of god. God can do whatever he wants to. Can you stop speaking as if you know exactly what God does and doesn't do.

Thank you.

I'm done here. You believe what you want to believe I gave you my knowledge and insight. It's just that you still haven't answered my question. I know you can't and that's okay really. It's just that you really need to stop with the childish act of neglecting my religion and calling mohammad a liar and a false prophet. I just proved to you as well that Islam isn't about killing and murder. Islam is just what this world of law has. If someone hits you, you have the right to hit them back. Nothing wrong with that. If you can answer my question if you can't then don't. I already know my answer so. Thank you.

Explain to me this verse in the bible.

"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him". Deuteronomy 18.18

Is this not proof enough he talking about mohammad?

As we all know mohammad was an illiterate person. He didn't know what to write himself the words were put in his mouth.

Tell me who this line is referring to.

Thank you.


/e What is your question?

This post was edited by SecondGear on Aug 23 2012 07:48pm

I DO know God. I have a Personal relationship with Him via Jesus Christ. I feel His love for me. His Spirit lives in me. He has spoken to me and performed literal Miracles in my family that I have witnessed. The Lord is the true God. That's why I speak with the confidence that you see, because I TRULY know God. You can know Him to.








Probably the Apostle Paul. He was sent by God and taught by the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ to give the gospel to the Gentile world. You still haven't answered my question though.

This post was edited by xfrodobagginsx on Aug 23 2012 08:13pm