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Feb 8 2023 05:56pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 8 2023 03:53pm)
Incorrect. All languages can learn the bible without Greek. Let's focus on English


Let me ask u now what is the best English version


Words do matter. John chapter 1. The word was god.


they are translations. Translations are never 100% perfect, and there exists academic debate over what a proper translation is.

Therefore you need people who are fluent in Koine Greek (NT) as well as Biblical Hebrew (OT) to validate a translation.
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Feb 8 2023 05:57pm
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I would say the best English version is the NIV, since it is translated to modern English which can be clearly understood by people

Old English (KJV) is a rats nest of understanding. It's old English that no one in the modern era apart from English language scholars can understand


Niv is a thought for thought translation it's like a photocopy of a photocopy


The reason why kjv 1611 is known as the authorized version is because the bible was hid by the Catholic church. The 1611 KJV was the first English Bible released to the public after the dark ages. It was the perfect copy


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Someone made the world...


How did u think the world came to be? The big Bang explosion?


The Big Bang theory is validated by Genesis 1
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Feb 8 2023 05:58pm
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The Big Bang theory is validated by Genesis 1


Bro no. The big Bang theory states that everything was created by chance


Then life evolved slowly and monkeys and then humans




The Bible states that the world was created by the word. Which is Jesus Christ.
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Feb 8 2023 05:59pm
Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2023 12:54am)
you should read the works of Augustine and Aquinas. It may appear like the themes in the Bible are "pulled out of their ass", but you have that perception only because you do not understand what it means or where it came from.

This is where the works of great scholars over thousands of years clarify this for people.


Interpreting the meaning of an old text in a way that suits your narrative doesnt prove anything. If god was real, we would not have to interpret old scrolls and books from 1000 or 2000 years ago, we would just have verifiable evidence for his existence in our hands.

And no, claiming that you understand old cryptic texts and enigmas better than me is no evidence for anything. Its not even a hint into god's direction. Its nothing.

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they are translations. Translations are never 100% perfect, and there exists academic debate over what a proper translation is.

Therefore you need people who are fluent in Koine Greek (NT) as well as Biblical Hebrew (OT) to validate a translation.


Proper translation is 1611kjv. It was the perfect and authorized version with


Word for word translation instead of thought for thought.


If it was perfected , it should have been left alone.






The copies after the KJV were just meant to further dilute the truth.
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Bro no. The big Bang theory states that everything was created by chance


Then life evolved slowly and monkeys and then humans




The Bible states that the world was created by the word. Which is Jesus Christ.


no it doesn't, the big bang theory is simply the theory that all matter began as an undefined singularity (the singularity breaks our current laws of physics which means the theory is incomplete) and started moving outwards from that singularity
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Feb 8 2023 06:02pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 8 2023 03:59pm)
Proper translation is 1611kjv. It was the perfect and authorized version with


Word for word translation instead of thought for thought.


If it was perfected , it should have been left alone.






The copies after the KJV were just meant to further dilute the truth.


KJV is great it's just very difficult to read and understand. It's better to have a more interpretable Bible for people to learn from. This is evidenced by the people in this thread who have zero understanding of the Bible
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Feb 8 2023 06:06pm
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 9 2023 12:54am)
Someone made the world...


How did u think the world came to be? The big Bang explosion?


What do you mean with "the world"? If you mean how earth formed, than thats proven. Nothing to believe or not to believe here. Just proven fact you can research in seconds.

If you mean how the universe formed than I of course dont know.

No one knows for sure, but the big bang theory is a pretty well thought out theory. I dont know if its true, but right now I would go with that, because its the single best model of an explanation we have.

Thats what you should always do by the way.
Always go for the most likely explanation. This is how science works.
This is how we got those phones or computers we use at this moment and this is how we got everything else we have today. Because we researched things and events and backtracked them to understand them.
Thats how we made use of electricity, solar power, nuclear power, hydraulic power and countless other things.

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Feb 8 2023 04:06pm)
What do you mean with "the world"? If you mean how earth formed, than thats proven. Nothing to believe or not to believe here. Just proven.

If you mean how the universe formed than I of course dont know.

No one knows for sure, but the big bang theory is a pretty well thought out theory. I dont know if its true, but right now I would go with that, because its the single best model of an explanation we have.

Thats what you should always do by the way.
Always go for the most likely explanation. This is how science works.
This is how we got those phones or computers we use at this moment and this is how we got everything else we have today. Because we researched things and events and backtracked them to understand them.
Thats how we made use of electricity, solar power, nuclear power, hydraulic power and countless other things.


You'll be excited to learn that science would not exist without religion, in fact the written word in its entirety would not exist without religion!

You'll also be excited to learn that literacy in Europe was saved by Irish Christian monks, whom you hold contempt for!
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