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Nov 15 2022 07:45pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 15 2022 08:42pm)
Not too convinced by your example though… young adults that can’t do their taxes isn’t really helping. I don’t think sex-ed classes in high school when they’re around 14 is going to hurt them, unless the teacher is some weirdo.


Sex Ed is not transgender.

a male has a penis and testicles, here is how it functions
a female has a vagina and ovaries, here is how it functions.

One for men and one for women.

This is simple biological understanding, Not to mention the foundation for understanding the world around us.

edit- It's very possible to educate without devolving into sexual deviancy.

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I am fine with transgenders in general. I firmly believe that their feelings about their own gender are real and valid, and they deserve to love and be loved just as much as anyone else, and deserve to be treated equally as anyone else.

That said, I do not support trans folk participating in sports. Reason is simple: is isn’t fair to the other competitors.

I also do not support trans children undergoing body changes until they’re at least 18 and have talked to professional therapists and doctors for a while to make sure they’re absolutely certain about what they want to do. Honestly I think it would be smarter to wait until later, like 25 at least. 18 is still very young. But this is just my personal opinion.

Bathrooms: I have mixed feelings about this. I’m not comfortable to be honest about it, especially where children are present such as in elementary schools. Mainly due to a few incidents where molestation had occurred thanks to perverted men dressed as women to take advantage of this. But those are bad apples. Otherwise I’d be fine with it.


The sports issue is actively being navigated, with most sports following IOC recommendations that stem from research among transgender athletes--predominately transgender women athletes. As more data becomes available, and as the average age of transition lowers (and thus, the average length of puberty exposure), I think we'll continue to see these recommendations become refined. It's definitely a challenging area of this whole conversation, for sure.

Most gender-affirming care, in terms of bodily modifications, are reserved for those only over the age 18--top surgery being an exception where I've seen the technical age floor be ~16, but the actual floor being used by providers ends up being 18 as we're still pretty early in collecting data on the outcomes of such relatively early interventions. More data will better inform long-term standards of care.

Personally, I think the bathroom issue could be "easily" resolved if we just didn't have communal bathrooms to begin with. I quote "easily" because it would be a massive infrastructure undertaking that is unlikely to ever manifest--at least, anytime soon. I've always thought it odd that we have communal restrooms. Single-occupancy restrooms have always been based.
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Nov 15 2022 07:46pm
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Sex Ed is not transgender.

a male has a penis and testicles, here is how it functions
a female has a vagina and ovaries, here is how it functions.

One for men and one for women.

This is simple biological understanding, Not to mention the foundation for understanding the world around us.



The biological part is important, but I don’t see the harm in explaining that transgender people exist and what that entails while remaining neutral. There is an area between sheltering kids and getting them front row at a drag show.
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Nov 15 2022 07:48pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 15 Nov 2022 20:39)
if you want to say they are unintelligent? then you need to bring argument against scripture.


Sir, absolutely I do not.

It's been a few years since my personal studies in the growth of religion across the world, but it is very apparent that the "whiter a population is, that the less they actually follow scripture."

This should be apparent as different populations of "Christians" have been at war with each other.

Maybe you've heard, but as the most popular and well known example: Hitler was born a Catholic and then converted to being an Evangelical Protestant, then proceeded to start murdering Catholics. He later went on to mass murder millions of people who follow a religion based upon the same scripture, which he used as a justification for genocide.

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(just a claim of yours and doesnt matter even if its true)


They represent the largest population of Christians in the United States who's religion closely follows the scripture that you are referring to.
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Nov 15 2022 07:49pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 15 2022 08:46pm)
I don’t see the harm in explaining that transgender people exist


Transgender people are male or female posing as the opposite gender.

The only form recognized is a true hermaphrodite. Not someone who thinks something.

Real Question: If you think sex ed can include transgender. Should it include bestiality/furries, pedos or inanimate objects?

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Nov 15 2022 07:55pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 16 2022 12:37pm)
This is actually an interesting point, Not the "White Men" part, because muh racism but rather...

Why aren't more women upset with male to female transgenders. They make it so women have to fight for their rights all over again.


I mention white men because thats what the vast majority of trans people start out as, and its the same old problem, white males feel entitled to something and society just lets them have it.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 15 2022 08:55pm)
I mention white men because thats what the vast majority of trans people start out as, and its the same old problem, white males feel entitled to something and society just lets them have it.

That is a racist statement.
Not all white males, not all whites, not all males, some people act that way.

e- I oppose racism including anti-white racism.

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Sir, absolutely I do not.

It's been a few years since my personal studies in the growth of religion across the world, but it is very apparent that the "whiter a population is, that the less they actually follow scripture."

This should be apparent as different populations of "Christians" have been at war with each other.

Maybe you've heard, but as the most popular and well known example: Hitler was born a Catholic and then converted to being an Evangelical Protestant, then proceeded to start murdering Catholics. He later went on to mass murder millions of people who follow a religion based upon the same scripture, which he used as a justification for genocide.



They represent the largest population of Christians in the United States who's religion closely follows the scripture that you are referring to.


you are making claims about scripture your going to have to provide said scripture to back it up. lets start with hitler and the scripture(s) he followed that gave him the go ahead for his criminal activity

didnt I just quote about the wolf in sheeps clothing. people lie. you dont believe everything your told at face value?

Matthew 7:15-20 NKJV
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits - “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves

by their fruits, that we are able to distinguish between false and genuine prophets by the things they do and say.

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Nov 15 2022 07:58pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 15 2022 08:49pm)
Transgender people are male or female posing as the opposite gender.

The only form recognized is a true hermaphrodite. Not someone who thinks something.

Real Question: If you think sex ed can include transgender. Should it include furries, pedos or inanimate objects?


Gender dysphoria exists. You can hold the opinion that it’s men posing as women, but there is no harm in knowing that some people don’t relate to their sex/gender the same as everyone else. The same is true for homosexuality.

As for the furries and tree-fuckers, no I don’t think it would be appropriate to discuss that in school - those are some sexual preferences, albeit weird, that have very little to do with sex-ed in a school context. By the time kids are in high school I hope they know that pedos are very sick individuals that should be dead or in jail and once again I don’t really think it’s something that should be discussed in a school setting.

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Quote (Mondain @ Nov 16 2022 12:56pm)
That is a racist statement.
Not all white males, not all whites, not all males, some people act that way.

e- I oppose racism including anti-white racism.


No such thing as anti white racism.
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