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Sep 21 2022 02:52pm
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If the data shows that hormone therapy then waiting until they are adults gets better results, then there's exceedingly few cases where a competent physician would recommend this course of action regardless.

If it's really a moot point then there's very little reason to talk about it. It's going to come out that way as standard practice as evidence-based decision making comes into play.

We should let those who are most equipped to interpret the evidence (physicians) consult with those in the individual circumstance (parents and children) to facilitate them making the best decision.



the physicians dont interpret the evidence they provide clinical data & cases, its up to anti pfizer scientific community & forthcoming sociologists to interpret the data and hold the medical paradigm accountable for its history of ill will & board of director business brief based decision making.

no more buying off lead scientists to cherry pick results either.
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Sep 21 2022 03:11pm
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Ultimately, the one to make the decision isn't us. Part of medical autonomy is giving people options and guiding them through the process to choose the one that's right to them.

There's rarely a reason to outright deny somebody a treatment unless it just won't help, or there's a treatment that's better in every way available.


Ultimately the one to make the decision is the royal 'us'. We can see in this case how ethical canons are no sufficient safeguard alone, but medical ethics are still ultimately responsible to democratic society at large. Its the voters and their representatives who are charged with regulating medicine and people's rights, particularly in cases where rights are in conflict and controversies exist over whether one party's interests infringe on another's. Its not a personal choice between a 'woman' and her physician, its the life of a child that can't choose for himself.
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Sep 21 2022 03:25pm
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Ultimately the one to make the decision is the royal 'us'. We can see in this case how ethical canons are no sufficient safeguard alone, but medical ethics are still ultimately responsible to democratic society at large. Its the voters and their representatives who are charged with regulating medicine and people's rights, particularly in cases where rights are in conflict and controversies exist over whether one party's interests infringe on another's. Its not a personal choice between a 'woman' and her physician, its the life of a child that can't choose for himself.


And if somebody thinks that's the case they can bring it to court and get somebody assigned to represent the child's rights.

You don't get to decide others medical care because it makes you feel icky. It has to be based on evidence and that needs to be born out. If there are things that obviously have no utility and cause only harm, like lobotomies, then we use the evidence to bear that out, and the ones who intrepret the evidence are experts, not laymen.
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Sep 21 2022 03:41pm
IMO, it's better to mutilate children for profit than to do it for no reason at all.
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IMO, it's better to mutilate children for profit than to do it for no reason at all.


Imo it would be better for you to have not been born then to beguile pard w/ child mutilation justification scenarios via the god of money.

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Sep 21 2022 04:38pm
I've still never recovered from the mutilation I experienced as a child at the hands of "doctors"... religious wackos that deemed it needed to give newborn boys a circumcision.

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I've still never recovered from the mutilation i experienced as a child at the hands of "doctors"... religious wackos that deemed it needed to give newborn boys a circumcision.


You should be glad because it increases the likelihood that you'll sleep with a woman. If you're a homosexual, then yes, I am sorry for your loss.
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You should be glad because it increases the likelihood that you'll sleep with a woman. If you're a homosexual, then yes, I am sorry for your loss.


Ah yes, I remember penis inspection day where all the girls found out who wasn't circumcised and created their sexual fantasies around that knowledge. Given the small town I grew up in, those lads never had a chance :(

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Sep 21 2022 04:59pm
Because 12 year olds can make well informed decisions about cutting off their sex organs, ROFL at the degenerate world we living in.
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Sep 21 2022 05:14pm
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the physicians dont interpret the evidence they provide clinical data & cases, its up to anti pfizer scientific community & forthcoming sociologists to interpret the data and hold the medical paradigm accountable for its history of ill will & board of director business brief based decision making.

no more buying off lead scientists to cherry pick results either.


This is why no one can trust modern "science".
It is all politically motivated now.
They will ostracize anyone who doesn't go along.

edit: funny how all the trust the science people are all in agreement politically.

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