About time! Too bad I paid all mine back years ago. Happy for those still under this burden to get some assistance, especially when corporate America has been sucking our tax tit for decades on corporate welfare.

Will public k-12 'counselors' stop scamming our kids on college now? And college financiers stop giving out tens of thousands of 7pcnt interest rate loans to C grade students with cosigning service industry parents? Perhaps the pay to win system is at fault.

Can we get a property tax forgiveness plan? I pay $12k a year

no. way too much money in there for the lenders/schools/government at all levels to pocket


talk about being fucked over on unrealized gains. my property taxes went up >30% yoy, but i yielded no actual benefit from asset price appreciation

Lol you're clueless. That's because California has BY FAR the largest population of any state and its not even close. I'm talking overall as a state

California contributes far more to the government than they accept. Other states (many are red) accept their money for government aid because they can't hold their own like California can.

California produces not only the most food of any state, but they also account for 15% of the U.S. GDP which is by far the most and its not even close. If Califirnia were its own Country it would be the 5th largest economy in the world.

The more you know

It is the responsibility of the individual to take care of their own problems. You guys go ahead and be thankful for accepting more issues coming.

It's hilarious how much people don't care to see no progress made in our country, but rather accept Bidens continued attempts to hurt our country further.

The one that’s clueless is you. You could put almost all the red states together and California would still pay more in welfare.

You might not remember it, but it was very criticial of the Trump tax cut bill back in 2017 when it was passed. I said that cutting the very high American corporate tax rate was the right move, but that cutting it all the way down to 21% was going a bit too far, and more importantly that more of the tax cuts should have gone to the working and middle class than the rich or corporations. I also criticized that the Trump tax cuts would increase the deficit.

I'm not joking when I say that I'm "moderate" on economic issues...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 25 2022 07:42am

It's not trivial at all to distinguish between where economic activity is registered and where it is actually taking place. For example, when folks from light-red suburbs commute to their office job in downtown, their contribution to the GDP will largely be registered for the deep-blue inner city. Likewise, a significant chunk of the productivity of a factory in the middle of nowhere will be registered at the corporate HQ which, more often than not, is located in a big city. Long story short, this metric is inherently biased toward cities, and by extension toward states which are anchored by a large city.

Also note that Silicon Valley is exerting a large influence on this statistic and a prime example of causality going the oppositite direction of what you think. The computer industry settled where the silicon was, the software companies then settled in the same region because the hardware industry was already there, and then the whole IT sector attracted a ton of liberal-leaning folks whose influx contributed greatly to California flipping from red to blue. The highly productive IT sector didn't pick California because of its supposedly superior liberal policies, on the contrary, California is super liberal because of this industry, which happens to be there based on a geological coincidence.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 25 2022 08:01am

The list of states that benefit most per capita from federal spending is overwhelming red, that is to say, Republican, you know, the party that claims to favor lower taxes (perhaps especially on the rich) and less government spending in order to net more of what, in Republican rhetoric, is called freedom.

Over the past five years, New York taxpayers have given $142.6 billion more to the federal government than New York residents have received back in federal spending. That’s the biggest gap of any state.

• 8 of the 10 states most dependent on the federal government are Republican-voting, with the average red state receiving $1.35 per dollar sent out.
  
• 9 states sent MORE to the federal government than they received — and 7 of these are Democrat-voting and had higher per capita GDPs than many of the red states that received the most.
  
• The eight states receiving the highest child tax credit per capita are all Republican-voting.

The big beneficiaries of this net transfer flows to red states (where more poor people live), while a significantly disproportionate share of the tax burden falls on blue states because that’s where more rich people live.

If, as Republicans generally say they want, Washington taxed less and spent less and allowed for more state-by-state autonomy, red states would lose, on net, gazillions in federal spending. And taxpayers in blue states would save, on net, gazillions in tax dollars.

The rest of the list of biggest beneficiaries is dominated by red states. The biggest winner in receiving more in federal spending/benefits than it pays in federal taxes is Kentucky, a Republican-leaning state, which leads the list in that beneficiary category and is the home of the U.S. Senate’s Republican leader Mitch McConnell (which might have something to do with all the federal taxpayer dollars flowing into the Bluegrass State).

The list of the seven states that, made out the worst by this measure, paying much more in federal taxes than they receive in federal benefits, are all blue states. The top four: Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey. All blue states.

This post was edited by Sixers on Aug 25 2022 08:27am