A doctor who works and earns pay based on his labor is not a capitalist.

I'll correct/clarify:

Because a woman wants a baby does not give it value.
Because a woman does not want a baby does not give it no value.

None of the opinions of the woman, the father, the doctor, you, nor me have the power to assign life value.

Life already has value, it animates where as dead things do not. Living things have free will to an extent, dead things do not.

Everything is matter recycled, except life creates something theoritically new: Time, force, in physics its defined as work. In a sense it moves without the kinetic chains that dead things move, free to choose its fate; the only finite resource is time. If life is the only competing power to gamma ray bursts, axis shifts, and meteors, then what has greater value?

Ah ha! But gold/economy has value you say, etc

Think about it this way: dark matter, multiple realities, layers of dimensions beyond 4d--- twilight zone time


The dead things are jealous of the living things. Inanimate matter want living matter to die.

Dead things want you to join them, so they influence living things to worship them, to commit death of living things. More shiny dead things for you with less living things. No? Its economics. It just makes sense to the worshippers.

Now you know whats been happening the last 2+ years. Old fashioned golden idol worship.

I didn't mean to say anything contrary.

But capitalist=communist=fascist to me. All identity politics, you know?

Just different hats to make money.

This post was edited by DidNotKillSelf on May 12 2022 06:38pm

flew above the inbreds' heads

They’re pretty specific things.

Capitalism is when someone owns factories and land and capital and makes money from other people working by paying them less than than their labor earned (profit).

Welfare capitalism is when the state kicks back a little bit of social assistance to help smooth out the curves of capitalism and prevent mass revolt.

Socialism is when workers kill all of the factory owners/capitalists and form a dictatorship of the working classes so that they receive compensation based on the actual value their labor earned.

Communism is when there is no longer a need for a state because the worker dictatorship has established essentially automated production and freed everyone from labor.

State capitalism is what most people are familiar with when they learn about communism, because Lenin and Mao needed to create a capitalist system in China and Russia respectively because there wasn’t one yet. Since Marx predicted communism could not arise without a capitalist system which would develop an economy enough for a worker dictatorship to eventually occur and communism to eventually happen from there, they formed the PRC and USSR to achieve the initial goal of establishing capitalism through totalitarian means. This is antithetical to anarchist philosophers such as Proudhon and Kropotkin who disagreed with Marx that a transitional system was necessary.

Stalinism was the belief that socialism could be achieved in a singe state, rather than through an international workers revolt. As a result, it incorporates many similarities with fascism (especially in regards to ethnic similarities being a starting place for incorporating welfare capitalism and factory socialism).

Fascism is a radically centrist system or Third Position system where corporations and state merge their power and take some ideas from both the right and the left to form an authoritarian nationalistic system. Generally with a goal of establishing an ethnostate with common heritage and values.

Anyway, words have meaning.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 12 2022 07:18pm

The question is not when "life" begins. "Life" never stops. The sperm is just as much "life" as the fertilized egg is.

The real question is when personhood starts. Cells don't have rights. People have rights. When does the fetus become a person with legal rights, and when does that fetus's right to life override the right to bodily autonomy are the two key questions.

As for when a fetus becomes a person, there is no cogent argument for personhood in the very early stages. It is, for better or worse, a clump of cells.

Those words have no real meaning, because they are all:

______ pisses on _____, and tells it it's raining.

You could type me out the full spectrum: authoritarians, anarchists, etc, but their difference are minor.

Coercion, propaganda, violence, are all very much the same way abuses on a "better constitution of human rights".(an ever evolving understanding) Hence all identity politics of... Politics... to me and their similarities are: they're just another greedy monkey that wants to control because it was uneducated, and probably scorns god because they're unfuckable. Sometimes the initial attempts of your communist or capitalist society is done in good faith, but it's clear it all leads to coercion propaganda violence, manipulation, which is a no no to freedom.

This post was edited by DidNotKillSelf on May 12 2022 07:33pm

Heres my view point, assuming the woman is 20.

75-20 = 55

75-0 = 75

75 is greater than 55

I a 36 year old middleclass man with 7 figure networth am less important than a -9month old.

It is only my ego & opinion that makes me think I am "important"

This post was edited by DidNotKillSelf on May 12 2022 07:29pm

I can respect nihilism.

Sperm= man's disposable 1use body part, dies in 72hrs. Same dna.
Egg = woman's disposable 1use body part, dies in ovulation. Same dna.
LGBTQEmbryo+ = unique dna potentially growing for 72 years, many parts, many uses.

"Life never stops" sounds like a communist fantasy to sing kumbaya to.



"The sperm is just as much life as fertilized egg is" no, sperm is meant to die and had its purpose, which is not to be alive, but rip its dna apart to combine with female dna.

Sperm has no life. Sperm is not alive. No scientist agrees with you, hell i am the patriarchy, i pretend my sperm are starship troopers, but no it isnt life.

It is not a tadpole.

You are very very confused.

"The sperm is just as much life as fertilized egg is"

Come on, you can admit that was some bullshit.

You don't keep sperm in a jar like Sea Monkeys, do you?





No that's not the question. That's the word games of leftists.

Personhood = identity politics


No scientist would say personhood is a scientific argument. It's a social argument. And social arguments are opinions and mostly exagerated when the big social issues are solved: racism, sexism, theft.

Legality about when is a citizen a citizen is the actual argument. Not what is human or life. Thats a fake argument/distraction.

Technically written word of the constitution sides with pro-abortionists in the word "born citizen" but contradicts itself with right to life liberty etc. But i never said America's constitution is the final formula for human rights. It's a work in progress.

Life has no criteria of definition besides movement/animation.
And what is defined as homosapien is clear: DNA.
We protect homosapiens, is what I hope a government of homosapiens does.