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Mar 3 2022 10:05pm
Quote (addone @ Mar 3 2022 08:04pm)
oh noes grasping basic metaphor is difficult.

Lol unless you using smoke signals you are making some multi billionaire wealthy because you and the rest of the world using their products/system.


Ok, and? What's your point? Yes I make billionaires rich, but so what? Does that mean they earned their wealth?
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Mar 3 2022 10:12pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 4 2022 05:05pm)
Ok, and? What's your point? Yes I make billionaires rich, but so what? Does that mean they earned their wealth?


yes its called supply and demand. Billionaires deliver mass demand of products and services while incurring massive risk at the beginning of their venture. After theyve made it they just buy up more companies and utilise thing called interest that the rest of the planet uses. Try to keep up

while a timmy like you might be out there washing car windows on a corner of an intersection billionaires would open up hundreds of car washes around the country and organise a system in perpetuity. But they don't deserve it because everyone should not build empires that benefit mass populace and just be out there with a sponge and bucket full of soapy water struggling like you?

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Mar 3 2022 10:13pm
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It's called debt. If your company begins to fail you either close shop, get debt, or find a way to increase profit.

How does having profit based income hurt companies unless they refuse to do any of those things? Answer....don't start a company that can't compete or profit and try to make it work by abusing employees wages.

It's our leading problem...employees getting the short end when they attribute the most while the top rake in the cash. That's how billionaires were made.


It's pretty rare that a company starts making money right away. There's equipment and property to be bought or leased.
I don't disagree that squeezing the workforce caused the situation we have, but ending investment and R&D and making the creation of new companies prohibitively expensive won't solve the problem.
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Mar 3 2022 10:14pm
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yes its called supply and demand. Billionaires deliver mass demand of products and cervices while incurring massive risk at the beginning of their venture. After theyve made it they just buy up more companies and utilise thing called interest that the rest of the planet uses. Try to keep up

while a timmy like you might be out there washing car windows on a corner of an intersection billionaires would open up hundreds of car washes around the country and organise a system in perpetuity. But they don't deserve it because everyone should not build empires that benefit mass populace and just be out there with a sponge and bucket full of soapy water struggling like you?


I don't get why you get so emotional. It's like you feel extremely touchy about this topic. You need to calm down and stop being hysterical.
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Mar 3 2022 10:19pm
Quote (Vastet @ Mar 3 2022 10:13pm)
It's pretty rare that a company starts making money right away. There's equipment and property to be bought or leased.
I don't disagree that squeezing the workforce caused the situation we have, but ending investment and R&D and making the creation of new companies prohibitively expensive won't solve the problem.


You can't use the current way of business as a model because lies, deceit, top level profit hogging are what create a lot of those problem.

No more promising something new and useful, failing to produce it after selling the idea as an investment, then simply walking away with your pockets full when the company fails.
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Quote (Subwoofer @ 3 Mar 2022 23:19)
You can't use the current way of business as a model because lies, deceit, top level profit hogging are what create a lot of those problem.

No more promising something new and useful, failing to produce it after selling the idea as an investment, then simply walking away with your pockets full when the company fails.


Doing away with corporate personhood would be far more effective for that. A company cannot be a person, and the fact they get treated like people in the law is absurd. That is what allows people to be irresponsible without fear of consequence.
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