Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 2 2022 09:40pm)

u keep arguing against everyone as if they're claiming far right people dont exist in Ukraine. its odd.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2022 03:53pm)

I have no proof but

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2022 03:53pm)

I'm pointing out that now that it's war we no longer hear the truth which is concerning. It's all propaganda from both sides.

But Ukraine clearly isn't innocent, those far right groups that hate Russia have been engaged in the war for 8 years already. I have no proof but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of Russia's claims are actually true and war crimes have been committed against Russian speaking minorities in Eastern Ukraine (committed by those far right groups)

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Some 1,000 Ukrainian rightists, led by the notorious Right Sector, surrounded, stormed, and burned the House of Trade Unions in Odessa last Friday, killing 39 pro-Russia demonstrators in the building.

On their way to attacking the union hall, which was occupied by anti-Kiev government demonstrators fearing for their lives, the rightists recruited members of a Ukrainian football club, the Chernomorets, according to numerous reports in the European press and on line.

Many of those who attacked and burned the building wore swastikas and other fascist insignias, according to observers. Eye witnesses said that the fascists were armed with bats, shields, and metal chains and that the people inside the union hall had run there for protection from them. After the attack by the rightists streets around the trade union headquarters were reportedly stained with the blood of those who had jumped from windows to escape the flames.

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In recent days, militia leaders in France, Finland and Ukraine have posted declarations urging their supporters to join in the fight to defend Ukraine against a Russian invasion. The posts have been located and translated by the SITE Intelligence Group, a private organization that specializes in tracking extremist groups.

Rita Katz, the director of SITE, said that numerous far-right white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups throughout Europe and North America had expressed an outpouring of support for Ukraine, including by seeking to join paramilitary units in battling Russia.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2022 03:53pm)

I'm pointing out that now that it's war we no longer hear the truth which is concerning. It's all propaganda from both sides.

But Ukraine clearly isn't innocent, those far right groups that hate Russia have been engaged in the war for 8 years already. I have no proof but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of Russia's claims are actually true and war crimes have been committed against Russian speaking minorities in Eastern Ukraine (committed by those far right groups)

Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 2 2022 10:24pm)

Group A has land that Group B wants, Group A also has a unspecified number of Nazis that have committed an unspecified number of unspecified crimes in a deeply contested region either already occupied or on the brink of occupation.

should the media report this, as compared to where battles are happening, what casualties and equipment losses are happening, and which celebrities are risking their lives to enlist in the army?

Russia has the same option that Muslim countries has for Palestinians. Offer them save passage and a place to live in peace in their country, or fund terrorism and tell them to stand strong and defend their land. both make the same choice, neither wants to feed peasants, they want to send rockets.

Honestly i think most of you are too focused on the media when i read takes like this. media = bad, but holy cow.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 2 2022 04:37pm)

We don't get to see much of what's happening on the front line. In pretty much every other war there are journalists at the front line and we see shit happen.

Now they're hanging out in the cities, reporting air strikes.

Why is RT getting banned in so many places, even online?

Quote (MadMan87 @ 1 Mar 2022 23:27)

I’m not disagreeing that there are neo-Nazi organizations and tendencies in Ukraine I’m asking how the president himself can be labeled one.

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 1 2022 07:54pm)

Can someone explain why Putin would refer to the current Ukrainian leadership as Neo-Nazis? I was under the impression the current Ukrainian President is a Jew.