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Feb 28 2022 12:51pm
Quote (meWW @ 28 Feb 2022 16:47)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA


The guy is locked on corrupted & authoritarian USSR model, so for him US can only follow this way.
Show him social democracies of Europe today and ask him how people renounced their freedom, how homosexuals got imprisoned (he's saying that) etc..
Not to mention the "thanks for redpilling me, now i understand why Obama is evil" comments etc :lol:

You can do the same with religion.
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Feb 28 2022 12:51pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2022 12:38pm)
One hypersonic that you can't dodge or shoot down will slam right through a carrier turning it into a bath tub very quickly. No nukes required. No naval fleet required even.

You should update your knowledge on modern naval warfare. Here's a hint: 3M22 Zircon

You can GTFO now


"Can't shoot down." Yawn.

The SM3 can shoot down an ICBM, which moves more than twice as fast as your scramjet missile. And if you think a single non-nuclear hit is going to sink an aircraft carrier, you're delusional Stanislav. A torpedo? Sure. A topside hit? Naw.

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Feb 28 2022 12:57pm
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"Can't shoot down." Yawn.

The SM3 can shoot down an ICBM, which moves more than twice as fast as your scramjet missile. And if you think a single non-nuclear hit is going to sink an aircraft carrier, you're delusional Svetlana. A torpedo? Sure. A topside hit? Naw.


You don't need to sink an ACC to render it incapable of maintaining its ability to launch strikes and support other forces. American ACC's are extremely impressive, very well capable of taking multiple conventional hits without being sunk. But they will be forced to leave the area and return to port for repairs.
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Feb 28 2022 01:01pm
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You don't need to sink an ACC to render it incapable of maintaining its ability to launch strikes and support other forces. American ACC's are extremely impressive, very well capable of taking multiple conventional hits without being sunk. But they will be forced to leave the area and return to port for repairs.


This may be true, if you can hit it. American carriers always deploy with 2-4 Aegis weapon system support ships (and a couple attack subs) whose primary function is to prevent attacks on the carrier from succeeding.
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Feb 28 2022 01:04pm
Quote (Santara @ 28 Feb 2022 14:01)
This may be true, if you can hit it. American carriers always deploy with 2-4 Aegis weapon system support ships (and a couple attack subs) whose primary function is to prevent attacks on the carrier from succeeding.


America has no weapons capable of intercepting hypersonic missiles. Hypersonic missiles do not have to fly high like ICBM's and are capable of maneuvers.
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Feb 28 2022 01:07pm
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America has no weapons capable of intercepting hypersonic missiles. Hypersonic missiles do not have to fly high like ICBM's and are capable of maneuvers.




Everyone here needs to consider this one glaring fact. The US is NOT going to leak, what they can and have accomplished.
Unlike Russia or China... it's not to the US's advantage to "brag about their weapons or defenses".

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Feb 28 2022 01:08pm
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This may be true, if you can hit it. American carriers always deploy with 2-4 Aegis weapon system support ships (and a couple attack subs) whose primary function is to prevent attacks on the carrier from succeeding.


did you serve on a cv?
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Feb 28 2022 01:09pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 28 2022 07:51pm)
"Can't shoot down." Yawn.

The SM3 can shoot down an ICBM, which moves more than twice as fast as your scramjet missile. And if you think a single non-nuclear hit is going to sink an aircraft carrier, you're delusional Svetlana. A torpedo? Sure. A topside hit? Naw.


A zircon that after reaching max speed dives to come in low to avoid radar gives you 20 seconds to react after detection. Max speed mach 8 - mach 9. This means it's virtually unstoppable.

This is a big missile, the kinetic energy alone is enormous. It can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

Your knowledge is outdated. Carriers will be in serious danger when they are in reach of these systems.

edit: it can maneuver just to make sure btw

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Also, all US aircraft carriers are outfitted with "rubber baby buggy bumpers" which are impervious to hypersonic missiles. :)
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Quote (Ghot @ 28 Feb 2022 14:07)
Everyone here needs to consider this one glaring fact. The US is NOT going to leak, what they can and have accomplished.
Unlike Russia or China... it's not to the US's advantage to "brag about their weapons or defenses".


That is an argument I've heard from Americans for decades, but the American military doesn't agree with the assessment. The Pentagon was alarmed at the unveiling of hypersonic missiles and immediately focused on catching up to Russian and Chinese development of said weapons. It is possible that you are correct, but if so, then it is a blunder to not 'brag' about having such defensive capability as it only emboldens adversaries.
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