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Feb 3 2022 03:34pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Feb 3 2022 10:10pm)
For the employed part i worked xx years atLa Defense for several telecom groups, banks, insurance, and TV. IT.


no wonder french corporations are trash and sucking at the teat of the state
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Feb 3 2022 03:48pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 3 Feb 2022 21:34)
no wonder french corporations are trash and sucking at the teat of the state


I think only two (1 com & 1 transport), but it's true these were a bit lame with unqualified people getting crazy pay & 10000 paid leave etc...
Banks are definitely the deal for money, on the other hand their system is anything but flexible so the job is eventually less interesting.
Most exciting is telecom ofc, i means technically. Humanly i can guarantee you that TV/Cable have memorable arrival, contracts, and farewell parties.
Heavy industry is horrible. Hi Adolf.



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Feb 3 2022 08:50pm
Quote (addone @ Feb 3 2022 02:09pm)
Sounds like a luxury. Wish i got free shit for not working and have the entitlement to complain about it. Now I wonder what op does for work.


It's really not. It's like health insurance, but for when your job doesn't care about your health.

A luxury would be being able to call any boss/manager/supervisor and telling them you have something more important than work and them going....yeah most stuff is good luck we will have your job here when you get back.

Instead its: You got cancer? You file the paperwork? No? Come to work til you do or your fired. Fired meaning you lost your health insurance you are going to need for the cancer.

You're not far off on it being slave labor working for others, but it's just another human and they tend to forget that.
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Feb 3 2022 09:05pm
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It's really not. It's like health insurance, but for when your job doesn't care about your health.

A luxury would be being able to call any boss/manager/supervisor and telling them you have something more important than work and them going....yeah most stuff is good luck we will have your job here when you get back.

Instead its: You got cancer? You file the paperwork? No? Come to work til you do or your fired. Fired meaning you lost your health insurance you are going to need for the cancer.

You're not far off on it being slave labor working for others, but it's just another human and they tend to forget that.


It always amazes me why people have so much to complain about yet they do nothing towards starting their own business or at the very least private contracting. Why don't you create jobs, pay your workers the demands you are making and lead by example oh wait... Rather be a wet towel and cry?
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Feb 3 2022 09:47pm
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It always amazes me why people have so much to complain about yet they do nothing towards starting their own business or at the very least private contracting. Why don't you create jobs, pay your workers the demands you are making and lead by example oh wait... Rather be a wet towel and cry?


Create jobs? Why aren't they starting their own business instead of working for mine? Stupid people.

You see the issue here? If everyone followed your generic advice there would just be failure after failure after failure.

Business run by exploiting the workers so stop pretending that's not how it works.
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Feb 3 2022 10:16pm
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Create jobs? Why aren't they starting their own business instead of working for mine? Stupid people.

You see the issue here? If everyone followed your generic advice there would just be failure after failure after failure.

Business run by exploiting the workers so stop pretending that's not how it works.


Just as I thought let's pull out excuses. Oh well keep working for people like me and be greatful we provide jobs otherwise you would be living under a bridge sniffing a glue.
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Feb 3 2022 10:22pm
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Just as I thought let's pull out excuses. Oh well keep working for people like me and be greatful we provide jobs otherwise you would be living under a bridge sniffing a glue.


Excuses? I was explaining how your logic doesn't actually work. You need workers or your business fails or at the very least severely diminishes profit, correct?

It's odd you claim to be in business for yourself yet lack the understanding of how any of this works.
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Feb 3 2022 10:57pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 4 2022 05:22pm)
Excuses? I was explaining how your logic doesn't actually work. You need workers or your business fails or at the very least severely diminishes profit, correct?

It's odd you claim to be in business for yourself yet lack the understanding of how any of this works.


It's odd that after college I held a few 9-5 jobs and then decided to work for myself and starting a small business where I employ others? I am providing a service for clients and if you want to work with me I lay out the terms. If not thanks for stopping by.
This must be a hard concept for your kind to grasp? If there was no workers then I would do the job myself. But the offer on the table is too good to pass up and people regularly ask to work especially in covid times.
The reality you fail to grasp is that either you manup and start a business or find a better deal. There are leaders who organise and make shit happen, then there are followers who just follow orders and assist those who are the brains.

At some point the followers decided they are entitled to shit that isn't theirs. Fine go quit find a better job/pay, if the workers are so valuable and essential they would get immediate raise and compensation.... Oh wait there is someone waiting in line for you to choke on a kebab so that they can replace your ungrateful/entiteled ass in seconds.

If you are so good and amazing I would fking pay you a big bonus and take you and your family to a fancy dinner. But don't kid yourself.
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Feb 3 2022 11:06pm
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It's odd that after college I held a few 9-5 jobs and then decided to work for myself and starting a small business where I employ others? I am providing a service for clients and if you want to work with me I lay out the terms. If not thanks for stopping by.
This must be a hard concept for your kind to grasp? If there was no workers then I would do the job myself. But the offer on the table is too good to pass up and people regularly ask to work especially in covid times.
The reality you fail to grasp is that either you manup and start a business or find a better deal. There are leaders who organise and make shit happen, then there are followers who just follow orders and assist those who are the brains.

At some point the followers decided they are entitled to shit that isn't theirs. Fine go quit find a better job/pay, if the workers are so valuable and essential they would get immediate raise and compensation.... Oh wait there is someone waiting in line for you to choke on a kebab so that they can replace your ungrateful/entiteled ass in seconds.

If you are so good and amazing I would fking pay you a big bonus and take you and your family to a fancy dinner. But don't kid yourself.


What business?

How long did you attend college and what did you get your degree in?

How long have you been doing said business?

It's also funny you are a contractor yet think "Oh wait there is someone waiting in line for you to choke on a kebab so that they can replace your ungrateful/entiteled ass in seconds." this doesn't apply to you. Clients control your life. You aren't their equal. You can say no same as anyone else, but it has consequence same as anyone else.

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Feb 3 2022 11:18pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 3 2022 02:56pm)
PTO is a stop gap to not getting fired for getting sick or having life emergencies for most.


This is true, If you're sick and don't feel good.

You can either pay a copay of 75$ at urgent care to get 3 days out of work unpaid or risk being fired because of no doctors note. Most people use some of their pto just because they got sick.
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