Oh, hispanics are definitely gonna go the way of "ethnic whites" in the 60s and 70s, when they gradually started being considered white and also started voting as such.




The whole demographic change issue would be far less toxic and loaded if it didn't change the political static of the United States. The backdrop of American politics throughout the recent decades is that Democrats are constantly growing stronger from cycle to cycle without having to work for it, without having to convince any existing voters of their policies or ideology. Romney in 2012 and H.W. Bush in 1988 had similar margins among whites and blacks. This performance was good enough for Bush Sr. to win in a landslide while Romney was comfortably defeated with the same performance.

So you have a trend that is massively benefitting one political party and hurting the other party and this trend is not some sort of inevitability, it is a political choice. Moreover, the party benefiting from demographic change passed the key legislation leading to this trend (Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965) under the explicit promise that this piece of legislation would not change the demographics of the country and would not lead to "a million immigrants per year". Of course Ted Kennedy was lying his ass off, as usual, and that's exactly what happened after the bill was passed. The second aspect is illegal immigration, which also greatly benefits Democrats with a delay of one generation (via birthright citizenship). Of course Democrats constantly want to legalize all types of immigration, undermine or soften up border enforcement, create new incentives for further illegal immigration and pass amnesty and a pathway to citizenship (what they euphemistically call "comprehensive immigration reform").





Whichever side of these debates one falls on, it should be a no-brainer that demographic change and immigration are contentious and divisive issues in the U.S., a country where the balance of power hangs by a thread and which is deeply polarized not just along racial lines but also along economic, cultural and geographic lines.

Good one

The last 3 pages is a disgraceful display. Absolutely fucking none of you are here in good faith. Maybe Thor... maybe. But the rest of your responses are just picking apart irrelevant nitpicks that aren't even accurate, purposely misunderstanding, basically just trying to get under my skin, not trying to make any arguments.

I mean, I get it, it's "the internet" but you all also claim to be smart, and claim to be correct, and certain, all the time. Why? What makes you think you have any authority on anything when most of the time you're just trolling and flaming?

You shouldn’t worry about voting. You think Hugo Chavez elected Biden. Lol

There isn't a single person on this forum here to have discussions in good faiith, to think otherwise is naive. I posted here a fuckton during the Obama years and discussions were better then but no one was actually open-minded. Its definitely worse now, find me a single thread in the first 3 pages where there's a legitimate discussion about anything that isn't overrun by conspiracy theorists/racists/people living in an alternate reality. How do you have a good-faith discussion with someone who can't even agree on the same basic facts that constitute reality? Do we owe literal nazis a good-faith discussion about the merits and downsides of nazism? Do we owe conspiracy theorists who think bill gates is microchipping everyone with the vaccine a discussion?

Whats the point of engaging with that? Just make fun of it and move on which is what every reasonably intelligent person on this forum does.



From the grave no less

This post was edited by Sioux on Jan 15 2022 08:42pm

You might get a better reception to your race war rhetoric on stormfront

How do you not see how automatically labeling everyone to the right of Joe Rogan, including Joe Rogan, as a Nazi, is counter producitve. The Nazi party dissolved in 1945 and German nationalism and militarism isn't really much of a thing in 2022 America. You're pushing more and more people away and further right. Self fulfilling prophecy. I mean, thanks for being such an obnoxious knob and helping conservatism by representing the left wing with.... yourself

Same thing with "Conspiracy theorists." What a ridiculous arrogance. Everyone who doesn't believe in your fucking fairy tales and witchcraft is a conspiracy theorist.

Literally fulfilling the comic thor posted. "If you call us nazi's we're going to have to go mask off and be nazis"

Get the fuck over yourself lol.

That's not what I said at all.

Why the fuck do I bother. You're just a clown.

Whats the point in trying to have a discussion with someone who isn't grounded in reality? Would you spend an hour trying to talk to lod222 seriously?

You're like, 1 degree closer to sanity than lod222 to me

Hispanics (and Arabs) were always considered white until recently. Hell, a majority of Hispanics IDENTIFIED as "white" in the 2010 census!

Also, we've done the math before and the effect that immigration has on the electorate is pretty small compared to other trends like the one in the OP. Republicans could EASILY get a vast majority of the immigrant demographic because they are overwhelmingly conservative. They just don't feel the need to perform outreach due to electoral advantages. If you don't need to change, why would you change?