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Dec 31 2021 06:54pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 31 2021 05:44pm)
Go fart on a subway and see if people next to you can smell it despite underwear and pants

What matters is fluid dynamics, the motion of particulates in a fluid medium with lots of erratic air currents like a normal indoor space. You don't need to be projecting a straight line of particle missiles at someone, you just need to be flooding the air in the room with your fine droplets and dried particulate that carries covid and soon the air in the room is impregnated with your germs. A shark doesn't rely on its prey spraying a jet of blood directly towards its face, it smells diffuse blood particles as fine as one part per 10 billion. If you're breathing in the same room as that candle with a mask on, your covid viruses are getting onto that candle.

The evidence so far is that harm reduction strategies based on reducing the spread aren't working, at all. If we were 2 years into this pandemic and cities with strict mask guidelines and people actually adhering to them showed much better outcomes than anti-mask counties, I'd think differently. Instead its geographic waves that pass through red and blue states alike. The one area where the results are clear is vaccines preventing death and serious hospitalization, at least.

I can see the arguments for why strong N95 mask protection could work in limited exposure scenarios, but I also see how saturation of virus in the air makes masks pointless in most indoor, heavily exposed environments.


There's a massive wealth of data at this point showing that regular mask wearing drastically reduces spread.

This isn't some theoretical idea based on fluid dynamics. It's empirical research into the subject at hand.

You are cherry picking parts of articles to make a point that the authors directly contradict in that same paper.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 31 2021 06:09pm)
You need a real degree in order to understand the behavior of aerosol bound viruses. Learn your place.


Which is why we should listen to the authors of the papers that directly state the results support mask wearing.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Dec 31 2021 06:55pm
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Dec 31 2021 09:41pm
Quote (kenw @ Dec 31 2021 01:11pm)
Would rather waste my time elsewhere but thanks for the invite.


wouldnt going there be better than L collecting here?

Quote (Skinned @ Dec 31 2021 01:56pm)
What studies have shown that wearing masks does not reduce transmission of Covid 19? Post one.

Don't give me your personal reasons, post the research. You probably raw dog scuttle butts.


been posting the truth of the mask for over a year now
"no masks"
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84140232&f=27


Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 31 2021 02:17pm)
How much would I have to bribe njag to give this guy 30%?


are you a fascist leftie censorship guy?
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Dec 31 2021 09:51pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 31 2021 10:41pm)
wouldnt going there be better than L collecting here?



been posting the truth of the mask for over a year now
"no masks"
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84140232&f=27




are you a fascist leftie censorship guy?


Just see a youtube video. Need evidence. A youtube video isn't evidence.
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Dec 31 2021 10:04pm
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 31 2021 03:52pm)
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118#sec-22





It was easy enough find a study that measures transmissibility of a disease and the efficacy of masks without making up metaphors about farts and buses.

Do you guys have anything coherent whatsoever? Post it plox, you say evidence shows, show me. Honestly the biggest argument for wearing a mask outside are the kind of people who are telling me to not wear one. TIStuff and Alex Jones and whatnot.


"no masks"
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84140232&f=27
Quote (Sioux @ Dec 31 2021 03:55pm)
Right which is why those particles can be filtered out by a mask.


the virus particles are smaller than the holes in the mask
its very simple math

Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 31 2021 03:59pm)
Except even when worn perfectly those masks still leave a significant chunk of particles, and are rarely worn with a perfect tight fit and often removed for activities like eating. And after a short time of exposure to an environment saturated in covid particles, the outsides of a mask become coated with those particles which you continue to breathe in at that % permeability.

So when we've got Joe Biden maskless while chatting with people, then putting it on to take a photo, and then taking it right back off again- it does dick all


the elites dont wear them. evidence shows the mask is going to be used for class distinction. perhaps mask zombies just want to be cucks?
BLM arrested for protesting outside of where the elites gathered
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k95h00G5l8c/

0:35 super rich whyte in the fore front with the mask servants in the back (one of them is black)
1:32 AOC "tax the rich dress" laughing about it with a masked up servant holding up her dress so she can walk.

laughing at you
0:35 dress says "equal rights" servants in masks

laughing at you
1:32 "tax the rich" dress, mask servant holding dress


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Quote (Skinned @ Dec 31 2021 07:51pm)
Just see a youtube video. Need evidence. A youtube video isn't evidence.


every argument you can imagine
"no masks"
"https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84140232&f=27"

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 31 2021 04:54pm)

Which is why we should listen to the authors of the papers that directly state the results support mask wearing.


"We" aren't listening to anything. There is no "we". You can put diapers on your face if you want, I won't stop you.

Doesn't matter, you want this life and always have. Maybe you are ashamed of the way your face looks, maybe you like being able to hide. No one is buying the face diaper dogshit this long without enjoying it while practically begging the government with muffled screams through a ball gag to regulate them harder

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masks lol
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hahaha styx now gloating on leftie fraud AOC for having grand ol time in florida
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Quote (D_urRRR @ Dec 31 2021 10:53pm)
Wearing them doesn't make sense. Please do your research.


Do you mean TiStuff's kind of research on bitchute, or the one I have already done in several older threads on d2jsp on Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials (CENTRAL), pubmed and ebsco?

Liang M, Gao L, Cheng C, Zhou Q, Uy JP, Heiner K, Sun C. Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Travel Med Infect Dis. 2020 Jul-Aug;36:101751. doi: 10.1016/j.tmaid.2020.101751. Epub 2020 May 28. PMID: 32473312; PMCID: PMC7253999.

Talic S, Shah S, Wild H, Gasevic D, Maharaj A, Ademi Z, Li X, Xu W, Mesa-Eguiagaray I, Rostron J, Theodoratou E, Zhang X, Motee A, Liew D, Ilic D. Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis. BMJ. 2021 Nov 17;375:e068302. doi: 10.1136/bmj-2021-068302. Erratum in: BMJ. 2021 Dec 3;375:n2997. PMID: 34789505.

Iezadi S, Gholipour K, Azami-Aghdash S, Ghiasi A, Rezapour A, Pourasghari H, Pashazadeh F. Effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical public health interventions against COVID-19: A systematic review and meta-analysis. PLoS One. 2021 Nov 23;16(11):e0260371. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0260371. PMID: 34813628; PMCID: PMC8610259.

Candevir A, Üngör C, Çizmeci Şenel F, Taşova Y. How efficient are facial masks against COVID-19? Evaluating the mask use of various communities one year into the pandemic. Turk J Med Sci. 2021 Dec 17;51(SI-1):3238-3245. doi: 10.3906/sag-2106-190. PMID: 34284538.

These aren't a few isolated articles. These are meta-analyses, and just the ones you can find with a very quick search and the filter for meta-analysis on pubmed. You come into the thread ejaculating terms as "research", so I trust you know how to read and interpret these articles and that you know what a meta-analysis is, in the first place. If you are still sceptical about it all, by all means, what is stopping you from writing a critically appraisal topic on the subject? I recommend McMaster's format, it's very newbie-friendly. It's only about a day's work, too, so it's not too much to ask for if you go out of your fucking way to spread misinformation.

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Quote (Leeevee @ Jan 1 2022 06:28am)
Do you mean TiStuff's kind of research on bitchute, or the one I have already done in several older threads on d2jsp on Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials (CENTRAL), pubmed and ebsco?

Liang M, Gao L, Cheng C, Zhou Q, Uy JP, Heiner K, Sun C. Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Travel Med Infect Dis. 2020 Jul-Aug;36:101751. doi: 10.1016/j.tmaid.2020.101751. Epub 2020 May 28. PMID: 32473312; PMCID: PMC7253999.

Talic S, Shah S, Wild H, Gasevic D, Maharaj A, Ademi Z, Li X, Xu W, Mesa-Eguiagaray I, Rostron J, Theodoratou E, Zhang X, Motee A, Liew D, Ilic D. Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis. BMJ. 2021 Nov 17;375:e068302. doi: 10.1136/bmj-2021-068302. Erratum in: BMJ. 2021 Dec 3;375:n2997. PMID: 34789505.

Iezadi S, Gholipour K, Azami-Aghdash S, Ghiasi A, Rezapour A, Pourasghari H, Pashazadeh F. Effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical public health interventions against COVID-19: A systematic review and meta-analysis. PLoS One. 2021 Nov 23;16(11):e0260371. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0260371. PMID: 34813628; PMCID: PMC8610259.

Candevir A, Üngör C, Çizmeci Şenel F, Taşova Y. How efficient are facial masks against COVID-19? Evaluating the mask use of various communities one year into the pandemic. Turk J Med Sci. 2021 Dec 17;51(SI-1):3238-3245. doi: 10.3906/sag-2106-190. PMID: 34284538.

These aren't a few isolated articles. These are meta-analyses, and just the ones you can find with a very quick search and the filter for meta-analysis on pubmed. You come into the thread ejaculating terms as "research", so I trust you know how to read and interpret these articles and that you know what a meta-analysis is, in the first place. If you are still sceptical about it all, by all means, what is stopping you from writing a critically appraisal topic on the subject? I recommend McMaster's format, it's very newbie-friendly. It's only about a day's work, too, so it's not too much to ask for if you go out of your fucking way to spread misinformation.


the matrix of the mask becomes moisture saturated with in 15 to 30 minutes. after that your just gurgling through moisture. also look up mask pollution. 1.6 billion plastic masks into the oceans last i looked and blue plastic masks are a special nasty pollution. BTW CNN one of the big mask people just said cloth masks useless. some truth after all this time.

bitchute is a good place to find articles that the fascists cancel. cancel rather than counter argument. thats how the frauds roll

real world data like sweeden who didnt do any of the stupid bullchit and have some of the best numbers. turning into nations of mentally ill neurotics

i remember some one posted a lab experiment to prove transmission. they had 2 dummies in a glass box with new masks on simulating coughing in the face of the other. seriously WTF? coughing in the face. not really real world except for the karens

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