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Dec 9 2021 08:27pm
The last time I had special K, I couldn't even stand up.

Fvck Kellogg's.
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Dec 9 2021 08:37pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 9 2021 09:19pm)
I have found 3 yearly job changes are always better than asking for a raise or a promotion once you hit a decent level.


can do it at 1 year too

fuck consulting, seriously
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Dec 9 2021 08:42pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 9 2021 08:27pm)
You were the winner in this scenario. You may have to explain it to St. Peter, but you were the winner in the end.



The incentives are weird. If the senior management feels like they can bend you into the shape of their designs, they will invest just enough in you to prevent you from quitting. But it's foolish to think that they care about you.


depends on the business and management

idk why most managers don't realize they're part of the working class and they should be trying to get their teams as much compensation as possible and good work/life balance while encouraging them to be productive
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Dec 9 2021 08:50pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 10 Dec 2021 03:42)
depends on the business and management

idk why most managers don't realize they're part of the working class and they should be trying to get their teams as much compensation as possible and good work/life balance while encouraging them to be productive


Managers' main task is to represent the interests of shareholders, not workers. That's why they are compensated so well compared to ordinary employees.
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Dec 9 2021 08:56pm
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 9 2021 09:27pm)
The last time I had special K, I couldn't even stand up.

Fvck Kellogg's.


Lol wut? :bouncy:

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 9 2021 09:50pm)
Managers' main task is to represent the interests of shareholders, not workers. That's why they are compensated so well compared to ordinary employees.


This.

Their salary is semi good, but their bonus is like $10,000 if they fuck over the foot soldiers.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Dec 9 2021 09:04pm
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Dec 9 2021 09:08pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 10 2021 01:56pm)
Lol wut? :bouncy:



This.

Their salary is semi good, but their bonus is like $10,000 if they fuck over the foot soldiers.


Can confirm, main bonuses are tied to using less of your allocated hours.
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Dec 10 2021 07:05am
its good to see this thread has only one idiot in it.
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Dec 10 2021 07:16am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 9 2021 09:50pm)
Managers' main task is to represent the interests of shareholders, not workers. That's why they are compensated so well compared to ordinary employees.


Managing people isn't fun. Longer hours aren't fun. Being the guy responsible when shit hits the fan isn't fun. And when you're promoted to management in the first place, it's normally because you're high(er)-functioning and it's the only way they know how not to lose you.

A lot of younger staff don't want the job. They want a new role that has the privileges without the responsibility.
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Dec 10 2021 07:34am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 9 2021 09:50pm)
Managers' main task is to represent the interests of shareholders, not workers. That's why they are compensated so well compared to ordinary employees.


This is just silly, managers at many levels go to bat for their employees. cowards who want to climb even higher dont.
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Dec 10 2021 09:14am
Quote (bogie160 @ 10 Dec 2021 14:16)
Managing people isn't fun. Longer hours aren't fun. Being the guy responsible when shit hits the fan isn't fun. And when you're promoted to management in the first place, it's normally because you're high(er)-functioning and it's the only way they know how not to lose you.

A lot of younger staff don't want the job. They want a new role that has the privileges without the responsibility.


Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Dec 2021 14:34)
This is just silly, managers at many levels go to bat for their employees. cowards who want to climb even higher dont.


Okay, I was sloppy when I phrased my previous post. You are right that lower middle management often times is still close to the employees and that their pay is usually adequate for the tremendous workload and pressure they have to endure. What I was referring to as being the lackey of shareholders is everyone from "upper middle management" up to the C-suite level.



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