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Oct 17 2021 09:49am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 17 2021 11:24am)
The rule of law is being eroded away.


A consequence of a loss of the credibility. I personally believe the biggest ideological conflict is the conflict between rational authority and traditional authority as hard dichotomies when they have been harmonious and coexisting for so long. The view that people who disagree are enemies rather than neighbors who think differently has gone up with a loss of tolerance. Being locked up for a year was pretty traumatic to the collective psyche in ways that I think led to all the street warfare between Americans in Portland and Kenosha that led to such radical events like people shooting each other at very intimate ranges in the middle of the street surrounded by armed mobs, burning houses, and militarized police officers. I don't think the riots would have happened without the lock downs but I don't know what else could have been done in the face of Covid before there was a vaccine and known treatments, lack of PPE, etc.

But the main causality of the war between rational and traditional authority is overall authority being eroded due to strong ideological commitments. Americans have never been this ideological before IMO, American philosophy has largely been defined by pragmatism, and while I think there is still a healthy amount of pragmatism, there are a lot of people with strong ideological commitments that might make them believe people they disagree with are actually satan worshipping pedophiles who ought to be destroyed or right wing crypto-fascist who secretly burn crosses under white hoods rather than people who probably have similar values of wanting to live in a good community with good neighbors who take care of themselves and each other.

I've largely dropped out of politics over the past two years, starting with cynicism, but really because I ceased to enjoy it. It seemed sportly before, where it was controlled conflict with rules and players but the stakes were never too harmful, just how much taxes we pay and what we spend it on rather than who gets to do what and why. Now that I don't like any of the players I don't like any of the teams. I see people like Mitch McConnell trying to keep some semblance of order against the full blown authoritarian anarchists who seem to have taken over the GOP and I'm rooting for him....and I've hated him my entire adult life.

I've worked with geriatric people for the past two years and a geriatric person shouldn't be the fucking president. Barack Obama turned 60 in August, and 50's that is the appropriate time in someone's life to be doing that big brain stuff. 70's is too late. That is the other problem with authority, our top authorities have been walking jokes for a couple presidents, our SCOTUS is becoming more activist, and our legislative branches have been dominated by the same players, Pelosi and McConnell, for decades. They don't have to solve these problems they can blame people and wait em out, they're like fucking vampires.

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Oct 17 2021 09:52am
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Because as disgusting as they are, they are still people. I also make sure to expose my kids to handicapped people early on so they aren't as disgusted.


If this is your rationale, then you need to be consistent and also expose your children to pedophiles, convicted murderers/rapists, necrophiliacs and all other kinds of freaks.

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Oct 17 2021 09:54am
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 17 2021 11:52am)
If this is your rationale, then you need to be consistent and also expose your children to pedophiles, convicted murderers/rapists, necrophiliacs and all other kinds of freaks.


I agree that you should expose your children to the world as it exists instead of telling them monsters aren't real and human history hasn't been the history of cruelty between people.

Yes, do this, in fact tell your children to avoid ALL strangers, no matter how friendly they seem, even if they have a puppy and candy or a cool video game at their house.

Dude you can google "x county sex offender registry" or something of the effect and see the people who have done things like this to people in your neighborhood, who live in your neighborhood. There are always more non compliant than compliant :)

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I agree that you should expose your children to the world as it exists instead of telling them monsters aren't real and human history hasn't been the history of cruelty between people.

Yes, do this, in fact tell your children to avoid ALL strangers, no matter how friendly they seem, even if they have a puppy and candy or a cool video game at their house.


Not sure what you are trying to say. I am guessing that you agree with me that trans are repulsive freaks.
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Oct 17 2021 09:57am
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 17 2021 11:56am)
Not sure what you are trying to say. I am guessing that you agree with me that trans are repulsive freaks.


No, I think that is a pretty silly thing to say, and a result of rigid or black and white thinking. Basically, low IQ stuff.

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No, I think that is a pretty silly thing to say, and a result of rigid or black and white thinking. Basically, low IQ stuff.


Lol, I hurt your butt and you are now lashing out.
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Oct 17 2021 09:59am
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 17 2021 11:58am)
Lol, I hurt your butt and you are now lashing out.


Why would I be hurt? It was something poor you were taught by another smooth-brain and never grew out of. I just feel bad for people like you as long as you're harmless. I'm sure you're harmless and your life probably sucks for you to need to have such strong feelings about people who are different than you.

Go get some exercise you'll feel better.

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Keep lashing out.


t4t

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Why would I be hurt? It was something poor you were taught by another smooth-brain and never grew out of. I just feel bad for people like you as long as you're harmless. I'm sure you're harmless and your life probably sucks for you to need to have such strong feelings about people who are different than you.


Keep lashing out.
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Oct 17 2021 10:06am
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 17 2021 10:57am)
No, I think that is a pretty silly thing to say, and a result of rigid or black and white thinking. Basically, low IQ stuff.


What aboot when a doctor diagnoses something? That's rigid or black and white thinking. Low IQ stuff indeed.
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Oct 17 2021 11:13am
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 17 2021 08:52am)
If this is your rationale, then you need to be consistent and also expose your children to pedophiles, convicted murderers/rapists, necrophiliacs and all other kinds of freaks.


There is a charity program called Kids ♥ Convicts out here where you can bring your children to the federal prison and interact with the inmates. We go once a month because it helps with the rehabilitation process. My kid has sat on the laps of murderers with no issues.
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