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Sep 17 2021 03:09pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 16 2021 06:48pm)
Newsom was outspending the recall proponents by a 5:1 margin. Not really a miracle to turn out some parts of your base with that kind of effort - and turning just parts of his base out was all he needed to win in Commiefornia.
The recall was essentially over as soon as Newsom successfully strongarmed all noteworthy Democrats into staying out of this race. With voters not having an option to replace him with a more progressive or moderate Democrat, the race turned into generic D vs R, which ensured his victory in a state like CA.


If we're trying to get cues from local races about the national political environment heading into midterms season, the Virginia gubernatorial election will be much more informative.


I agree that you shouldn't look at this race and extrapolate much.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2021-recall-elections/california-governor-results

So far, we have ~77% in which indicates that we have roughly 12.5 million expected votes. That's more than both the 2014 and 2018 gubernatorial elections and is roughly on par with the 2012 PRESIDENTIAL election in California. What can we learn from that?

Can we look at the Congressional map and see if there are any surprises? https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/california/house/
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Sep 17 2021 03:34pm
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I agree that you shouldn't look at this race and extrapolate much.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2021-recall-elections/california-governor-results

So far, we have ~77% in which indicates that we have roughly 12.5 million expected votes. That's more than both the 2014 and 2018 gubernatorial elections and is roughly on par with the 2012 PRESIDENTIAL election in California. What can we learn from that?

Can we look at the Congressional map and see if there are any surprises? https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/california/house/


Trying to look at geographic or demographic trends is a fool's errand until almost all votes are in. With mail vs election day voting and all these covid-era shenanigans, we don't know how the still outstanding votes lean relative to those already counted.
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corrupt democrats don't even need republicans to obstruct meaningful change that would benefit the working class:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/20/democrats-blocking-lower-medication-prices-bill
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corrupt democrats don't even need republicans to obstruct meaningful change that would benefit the working class:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/20/democrats-blocking-lower-medication-prices-bill


are you dumb its all the republicans saying no and like 4 dems and you are like fuck man dems suck

like you cant actually be serious there is no way you are that stupid
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Quote (Crunkt @ 23 Sep 2021 22:02)
are you dumb its all the republicans saying no and like 4 dems and you are like fuck man dems suck

like you cant actually be serious there is no way you are that stupid


just because republicans are even worse, doesn't mean establishment dems don't suck.

i'm not saying both parties are equally shitty, but corruption is corruption. corporate owned stooges doing their donors' bidding deserves to be called out, no matter which flag they fly. don't let your justified hatred for the GQP make you blind for the flaws of the other side. that partisan blindness is exactly what allowed the US to be turned into a de facto oligarchy.
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Quote (fender @ 23 Sep 2021 16:27)
just because republicans are even worse, doesn't mean establishment dems don't suck.

i'm not saying both parties are equally shitty, but corruption is corruption. corporate owned stooges doing their donors' bidding deserves to be called out, no matter which flag they fly. don't let your justified hatred for the GQP make you blind for the flaws of the other side. that partisan blindness is exactly what allowed the US to be turned into a de facto oligarchy.


ya ur right for sure

establishment dems are fucked, part of why I made the hate to say I told you so thread saying I told you so.
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