I believe I already mentioned the government's vaccine-pushing ways, along with a myriad of other issues that together formed the basis of my doubts about these vaccines. Yet you chose to ignore all of them. I mean, let me ask you this. Do you seriously not see that your government is pushing these vaccines, HARD?

That the vaccines are made of unknown substances is NOT the main part of my argument, but keep crying "your argument is unscientific!!", though. The main thrust is, don't trust our governments blindly. And if it's possible at all, take some moments to think about why our governments want us to be vaccinated so badly. Do you seriously believe that your government, which is made up of a bunch of strangers who you don't know personally and who don't know you personally, cares about your health and has your best interests at heart?

Truthfully, I don't give a shit if you could "prove" that my argument is poor/unscientific. If you love the vaccines so much, by all means take them. I like it when gullible people become infertile, courtesy of their governments.

Who is "the government" though? Governments across the world support the vaccines, and world leaders within those same governments have been vaccinated themselves.

Can you provide sources regarding the vaccines re-writing DNA sequences (and what you mean by 're-writing DNA sequences') or resulting in infertility?

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Sep 5 2021 02:47pm

Not sure what you are trying to say. Do you mean that getting a shot from a needle is on par with eating an apple?



Please give me a few minutes.

Fun read.

Honestly I think we should have went with herd immunity from the start.

Gather everyone, get everyone infected, those who die, die but the spread stops.

I'm not getting them either. This isn't about health its about something more. If it was about health they wouldn't be pushing it so much the governmen tdoesn't care about anyones health lmfao they let people become fat.

I'm saying that your argument about if we call them ingredients or components is irrelevant. What we call something and how it gets there is irrelevant. Fact is it's there.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 5 2021 02:36pm

Congratulations, you just guaranteed the death of at least 6 million people and everybody who happens to get sick or injured from something else during that time, and made everybody who experiences severe symptoms experience them all at the same time which grinds the whole economy to a stop instead of just hospitality.

Herd immunity by infection will always be the least efficient method of beating a disease by every single metric.

Indeed I cannot adequately explain who "the government" is, and apparently you can't either, given that you asked. And when there are literally ads everywhere on all kinds of social media, and "have you had the vaccines yet" types of messages coming at us from almost everywhere, which I am sure you have seen, and we can't even properly identify who's buying all these ads, please tell me why this situation would make me really trust the vaccines.



Is this supposed to mean something? That we the people should have total faith in our governments? This is a big blind spot for a lot of people. They turn on the news and see that the almighty governments are in favor of something, that means that something must be good.

And when all of these governments across the world act in concert, that means it's gotta be legit, right?



First of all, there is simply no way to verify this. And secondly, even if this could be verified, that still doesn't mean anything to me. World leaders can do stupid things too.



Please give me some time to see if I can find the links I saw on another forum.

I'm not trying to be argumentative with you here, but I'll share my 2 cents:

Why doesn't a government want its citizens to die? Gov't could be incentivized to prevent that for any number of reasons. Could be so that you'll pay your taxes, vote, so they more able bodied citizens to fight against their adversaries, etc etc. What incentive do governments have letting its citizens die to a disease that kills you regardless of your political affiliation, religion, skin color, and so on?

It seems like your reasoning is 90% distrust of the government, 10% health based reasons. COVID also has long term side effects - it can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems. You're basically accepting the risk of the long term health effects of COVID (should you get it) versus the "mostly understood" side effects of a vaccine that has already been taken by millions of people globally.

I am not sure what you mean.

So if we go by your "logic"--doesn't matter how it gets there, the fact is it's there, then we also shouldn't care about how a woman gets pregnant. Doesn't matter if the pregnancy comes from consensual sex or rape, the fact is that it's there.

No offense but your "argument" blows.