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Aug 30 2021 11:40am
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Juke the fluke worm jab & it's mind-body altering consequences.
let he who hath wisdom calculate.


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Aug 30 2021 11:53am
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 30 2021 06:23pm)
Some internal weaknesses are not obvious from the outside. This is all the more reason to get vaccinated even if you think the virus won't kill you don't you think?

Millions of people have been vaccinated and id think if there were serious problems with the vaccines you'd be hearing about it in large numbers now.


im going to get it. just saying the premise of these articles is completely wrong. and we have been hearing about a lot of issues with the vaccines.
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Aug 30 2021 12:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 30 2021 11:04am)
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check-no-evidence-that-pfizers-covi/fact-check-no-evidence-that-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-causes-alzheimers-disease-idUSL1N2MZ382

it would appear claims this is possible are not well sourced, unless there are others claiming this with more robust methodology.

perhaps this is more of a risk with more long term mrna technology that seeks to create changes that replicate long term, as compared to covid which is:



personally i think mrna if seriously expanded on could indeed cause some bad issues down the road, doesnt seem likely this is the case here.

immune response could be directly effected by mrna involvement, at least my non doctor brain could see that logically, given that this system is the target for the mrna vaccine. but unless i have a doctor stating that in a well sourced and then critiqued paper im not going to back seat doctor on that. you have given an answer where most dont even try tho.


Its probably safe for 99% of people.

There is probably a reason why this technology was never used before though. mRNA technology was first discovered in 1989. Either the technology was never safe enough to tech transfer it or there have been a lot of advances since then.
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Aug 30 2021 12:35pm
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Its probably safe for 99% of people.

There is probably a reason why this technology was never used before though. mRNA technology was first discovered in 1989. Either the technology was never safe enough to tech transfer it or there have been a lot of advances since then.


The reason it hasn't been used is because the process of safely introducing mRNA into the cell in a way that maintains the fidelity of the code didn't exist until just a few years ago. My lab was working on it in graduate school as late as 2016. We were using a different technology to do so, but that speaks to how there wasn't this technology at all even 5 years ago.

There have been absolutely mammoth advances in DNA and RNA delivery into cells, and that's why we currently have it in vaccines. Covid sped up the development of mRNA vaccines by like 5 years at most. We were going to see them very soon regardless.

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The reason it hasn't been used is because the process of safely introducing mRNA into the cell in a way that maintains the fidelity of the code didn't exist until just a few years ago. My lab was working on it in graduate school as late as 2016. We were using a different technology to do so, but that speaks to how there wasn't this technology at all even 5 years ago.

There have been absolutely mammoth advances in DNA and RNA delivery into cells, and that's why we currently have it in vaccines. Covid sped up the development of mRNA vaccines by like 5 years at most. We were going to see them very soon regardless.


That's pretty awesome.
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Aug 30 2021 12:59pm
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The reason it hasn't been used is because the process of safely introducing mRNA into the cell in a way that maintains the fidelity of the code didn't exist until just a few years ago. My lab was working on it in graduate school as late as 2016. We were using a different technology to do so, but that speaks to how there wasn't this technology at all even 5 years ago.

There have been absolutely mammoth advances in DNA and RNA delivery into cells, and that's why we currently have it in vaccines. Covid sped up the development of mRNA vaccines by like 5 years at most. We were going to see them very soon regardless.


I went for a solo run this morning without a mask. I'm very worried is this ok? I think I'm gonna quadruple mask next time to offset the effect
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Aug 30 2021 01:06pm
Quote (TheHitman @ Aug 30 2021 11:59am)
I went for a solo run this morning without a mask. I'm very worried is this ok? I think I'm gonna quadruple mask next time to offset the effect


You'll be dead in a week. Next time, you won't do something that's so fucking irresponsible.
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Aug 30 2021 01:10pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 30 2021 01:55pm)
That's pretty awesome.


Indeed it is. The best part is that direct introduction of mRNA is likely to have less side effects than traditional vaccines, since your body is being introduced to the agent in a similar way to a natural infection but with a much smaller dose, and the vaccines can be reformulated in very short order since the only thing that changes in the formulation is the order of nucleotides. There's no need to re-synthesize protein and see how every protein interacts with every cell. The synthesized protein is sequestered in individual cells and is then shepherded by other cells to be introduced to your immune system in a controlled way, so the odds of a spike protein escaping into the blood is much lower than runaway viral infection.


Traditional vaccine would go

Protein introduced to your muscle tissue outside of cells --> Protein eaten by macrophage --> macrophage introduces it to a B cell which makes antibodies

mRNA goes

mRNA introduced into cell --> Protein is synthesized by cell --> Cell is killed by NK cell and given to a T-Cell --> T-Cell gives it to a B Cell which makes antibodies


By bringing T-cells into the mix you amplify the immune response in a more specific way, and you avoid ever having the protein in systemic circulation.
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Aug 30 2021 01:13pm
Quote (Skinned @ Aug 29 2021 09:07pm)
Our hospital called disaster code last week because we were completely full of people who didn't get the free vaccine. A lot of them are dying. Hard to be sympathetic at this point since it is an elective disease.

After a year of this I'm pretty checked out.

#burnout


why do people keep saying the vaccine is free it was not free was paid with our tax $$$ still go get your bloody shot if your trust it if not enjoy what happens ;)
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Aug 30 2021 02:16pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 30 2021 08:10pm)
Indeed it is. The best part is that direct introduction of mRNA is likely to have less side effects than traditional vaccines, since your body is being introduced to the agent in a similar way to a natural infection but with a much smaller dose, and the vaccines can be reformulated in very short order since the only thing that changes in the formulation is the order of nucleotides. There's no need to re-synthesize protein and see how every protein interacts with every cell. The synthesized protein is sequestered in individual cells and is then shepherded by other cells to be introduced to your immune system in a controlled way, so the odds of a spike protein escaping into the blood is much lower than runaway viral infection.


Traditional vaccine would go

Protein introduced to your muscle tissue outside of cells --> Protein eaten by macrophage --> macrophage introduces it to a B cell which makes antibodies

mRNA goes

mRNA introduced into cell --> Protein is synthesized by cell --> Cell is killed by NK cell and given to a T-Cell --> T-Cell gives it to a B Cell which makes antibodies


By bringing T-cells into the mix you amplify the immune response in a more specific way, and you avoid ever having the protein in systemic circulation.


that's basically how you summon candyman.
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