Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 26 2021 06:02pm)

After all of this, every hawk that tries to speak and argue for another intervention or war needs to be backhanded and told to shut the fuck up at the very minimum.

Afghanistan- thousands of American troops dead, over a trillion spent, complete failure. Look at what's happening.

Libya- complete failed state, civil war raging on for years to this day, thousands of African migrants streaming into Europe because of it

Syria- our attempt to depose of Assad? complete failure. We literally sent care packages to moderate 'rebels', just kidding terrorists, and saw our arms in the hand of al-nusra and co.

Iraq- probably best case of all, still a ton of casualties, ton of money spent and for what? To have a government that's Shiite controlled and basically an ally in the region to Iran- our number one enemy in the region.

Quote (Skinned @ Aug 26 2021 05:15pm)

Libya fell because Gaddafi because weak and he was a dictator and that's what happens to them when they soften. He gave people the rights to speech and assembly, which are the tools that destroy dictatorships.

Quote (excellence @ Aug 26 2021 06:25pm)

in other news

https://mobile.twitter.com/SCUBA2024/status/1431019669863927813

the military leadership (which focuses more on “white rage” and studying how to re-implement ‘separate but equal’ instead of military strategy) said our most important airbase was not important two months before we decided to evacuate immediately

Quote (Skinned @ Aug 26 2021 08:15pm)

Libya fell because Gaddafi because weak and he was a dictator and that's what happens to them when they soften. He gave people the rights to speech and assembly, which are the tools that destroy dictatorships.

Quote (thundercock @ 27 Aug 2021 02:14)

That would have been a profoundly dumb idea I think. I imagine the number of soldiers killed in those operations would exceed the total number that will die until Aug 31. Also, as soon as the Afghans got word that we were disarming them, they'd blackmarket that shit quite quickly because they are corrupt AF.

After the operation is complete, I expect to see several resignations. There really are no excuses for some of the mishaps. It would not surprise me if Blinken stepped down given that the refugee crisis lands squarely with the State Department.

Quote (Bolsonaro @ Aug 26 2021 02:51pm)

biden newb af
this is what hapens whn you alow leftists for govern

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2021 02:14am)

That would have been a profoundly dumb idea I think. I imagine the number of soldiers killed in those operations would exceed the total number that will die until Aug 31. Also, as soon as the Afghans got word that we were disarming them, they'd blackmarket that shit quite quickly because they are corrupt AF.

After the operation is complete, I expect to see several resignations. There really are no excuses for some of the mishaps. It would not surprise me if Blinken stepped down given that the refugee crisis lands squarely with the State Department.

Quote (thundercock @ 26 Aug 2021 19:36)

I mean it doesn't really work like that. Do you know how expensive that operation would be and how many troops that would require? We've arming them for almost 20 years...you can't just take it over the course of 5 months.

Quote (Goomshill @ 26 Aug 2021 20:18)

Yeah I can't figure out who's more incompetent in this scenario, the commander in chief or the top generals or the state department or intelligence community
Mark Milley definitely comes out looking the worst at face value, spending all that time on social justice and identity politics while his command simply crumbled underneath him. But if he was fiddling as rome burned, Biden was just absent

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 26 2021 08:18pm)

Yeah I can't figure out who's more incompetent in this scenario, the commander in chief or the top generals or the state department or intelligence community
Mark Milley definitely comes out looking the worst at face value, spending all that time on social justice and identity politics while his command simply crumbled underneath him. But if he was fiddling as rome burned, Biden was just absent

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 26 2021 08:50pm)

The ones in charge here were the lobbyists paying the defense contractors. The war in Afghanistan was a money laundering operation to funnel federal funds into the private industry and the generals and executive branch were paid to keep their mouths shut mostly.

The only thing I fault Biden for here is not being able to save more American citizens, and giving the Chinese our military technology...