I honestly dont recall any woke dialogue in the year or so that i played diablo 3 when it came out

Small startup full of passionate designers creates game

Game is breakout success

Small startup creates sequel or updates the original game.

Game also does very well and reaches mainstream radar.

EA / Activision / Whatever major studio buys small studio. Gives them massive resources with expectation of massive return

Game 3 does well, but clearly has the edges sanded off and adds microtransactions. Fans are displeased.

Game 4 tanks because it's just a generic copy of everything else at this point.

Passionate game designers leave company sometime between game 2 and 4. Starts new small studio.

Wash rinse, repeat.



Because D3 wasn't "woke". They just use "woke" as a catch-all for anything they don't like, so they call everything "woke" without even thinking about what it means.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 22 2021 11:39am

and I hate it. I am and always have been happy paying for a base game and a monthly subscription if the content is good and delivers. To me 15 a month is nothing if I am getting a good return of sunk hours into the game. And that used to be great return for companies but as you said its not even close to the return people sink into instant transactions. Its pretty unfortunate that monetization went that direction.

I would pay a subscription price that increases overtime as long as the development time went into deliverable content and not micro transactions.

The company credibly accused of pervasive sexual harassment is too politically correct for him.

You just mentioned "to widen the audience". However this is an ARPG which means the audience is limited to ARPG fans and we all know D2 did very well within that audience, there was no reason at all to think D3 would not be successful.

If you want to have a closer look at their decisions think about the fact that they wanted the game on consoles to boost sales which means the game will be played on couches in living rooms. Can you imagine mom hearing some of that Gheed dialogue?

If you think widening the audience beyond the ARPG fans isn't bad think about all the consequenses

--> They left it out proper dialogue deliberately and the resulting dialogue is shit / not immersive.

--> The took away the hostile button because dangerous pub games would be too much for the fragile new audience.

--> Colorful cartoony graphics that tone down the dangerous, evil world.

--> Tons of affixes on gear taken out to make it easier for the masses. No attack rating, faster his recovery, no break points.

--> Not even the promised pvp arenas FFS

Look I'm acutely aware of all this BS surrounding us these days, it's everywhere. Movies, video games, TV. You'll never win this debate you better just stop

Wow became Woke as hell once the girls got hold of the authoring duties.

They had a female wizard named Jaina literally lift a gigantic boat out of the sea with her magic, fly on that boat as it was covered in bedazzling sparkles and use that boat to single handedly destroy an entire army to save the day.

It was the most cringe Mary Sue nonsense I have ever seen in a video game.

I agree that those were detrimental to the game, but I don't think any of those would fall under the category of "woke".

I actually think D3 was massively better on consoles. It's clear the game was designed with consoles in mind because it played far better on the xbox than on the PC.

Now you say you believe D3 was good on consoles. You first stated that you haven't bought a Blizzard game since D3 which can only mean you were very disappointed.

It's clear to all you're contradicting yourself and I bet everyone else can see that around that time woke BS and political correctness started to seep into video games.

D3 on PC was very bad. D3 on consoles was acceptable. I bought it and I don't feel like I wasted my money at least.

If D4 doesn't get rave reviews I'm going to pass, becasue when I buy a game I expect more than "didn't feel like I wasted my money".

But I wouldn't say that any of the issues you listed were due to "wokeness". Just general corporate culture where they have to appeal to mass audiences to generate the most revenue. Ya know, general capitalism stuff.

It’s unfortunate how commonplace this type of behavior probably is

D3 still & will always suck for a myriad of reasons

I’m still buying / playing D2R with the boys & using locker-room vernacular to describe all the noobs we kill

We should get a pard squad together

This post was edited by IgoSoHard on Jul 22 2021 12:05pm