Why would they fall silent? Arent most libertarians against the minimum wage since it isnt a very effective way of reducing poverty? Welfare is worse but thats another topic

E; what kind of argument is “you have all the studies and evidence, but if it hasnt been tried yet then all that is worthless”

Couldnt you say the same for the optimistic goals of increasing the minimum wage?

This post was edited by ssdrmstre on Jun 6 2021 11:54am

There are many studies showing negative consequences to the labor market with large percentage based minimum wage increases. Seattle, for example, shows reduced earnings ($125/month) amongst entry-level employees making minimum wage despite the recent hikes. Essentially, we're seeing small businesses responding by managing labor more aggressively by cutting hours and hiking prices.

I am all for employees being paid according to what they deliver. We all should be. When you do a job worth a specific salary, you should be paid appropriately.

Question, though, what does someone who chose to make fast food kitchen work a life-long career actually bring to the table that's worth $15 an hour (not talking temp means to an end, young kids doing it until they find what they really want to do with their life, or anything like that)? If you chose that as a life-long career without striving for anything better, I doubt your employer will see you as someone worth investing in as well and that's why you'll get the bare minimum for a job that requires minimal skill (and to be fair - I speak from experience, I did that job for 2 years in high school and 15+ years ago when the tech that now automates most of it didn't exist).

You'd be surprised how many of those with ambition reach store GM (and even higher corporate positions / hired by franchisee companies who own hundreds of locations as a regional manager, etc). There are education opportunities (including free GED classes in case you didn't finish high school yet and even a minimum of an associates degree for free on top of that - McDonalds for one offers both). I know this because I graduated from the same school they partner with (SNHU) and could clearly see who else partnered along with my employer.\

McDonald's is just an anecdotal example from things I have witnessed in real life, but, you get the point. I'd be willing to bet the rest offer the same (or similar as well).

From a third-party, completely un-invested perspective, sounds more like those who fit the above criteria that want a blanket minimum wage increase without question simply don't want to use the tools that are already available to them -- they want the easy route instead.

Again, just my 2 cents - for what it's worth anyway.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 6 2021 01:54pm

Itt people trying to argue/solve/explore symptoms of the federal reserve system, ie inflation through printing of money. Good luck

Well, if we're being fair, we weren't printing money like monopoly notes under our past president. In fact, until COVID became a thing (which to me, the timing seems questionable), we were an economic GDP powerhouse to the likes we hadn't seen in multiple decades.

That started to resume at normal rates when Joe Biden (who already had 8 years as second in command to do absolutely nothing to make anything better then either) took the reigns back.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 6 2021 03:08pm

$15 is way too low.

That make too much sense for them. They rather put the blame on white people.

Well........ It's their rent I guess. Blaming others rather than doing some self-reflection when necessary isn't going to cover that bill, or fix any of life's problems.

I've had to learn that lesson myself the hard way

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 6 2021 03:51pm

good luck on your journey and always be the best version of yourself!

cheers and same to you