Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 2 2021 11:00am)

Public universities are not the same thing as someone's private property.

Yes violently protesting and interrupting events to shut down speech is in fact shutting down speech and a form of censorship.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2021 12:32pm)

i like how you weave between calling ANTIFA unintimidating weirdos when u have mugshots, a threat to america when they throw a pepsi can, and a legitimate threat to safety despite being present at thousands of speaking events and never having attacked a speaker (afaik).

even more funny that u support private security as an alternative to police but also seem to think they cant protect speakers adequately so the Proud Boys counter protesters are justified.

Speakers wanted to save on security, outsourced it to patreon simps with false narratives, and Universities were understandably not willing to let a mob enter their campus with no legal liability tying them to the event which invariably went violent.

Shapiro got smart, hired private security, and kept a sense of legitimacy and his speaking engagements. Cucks like Gavin and Milo tried to fan flames then cried when they got burned. both are now relegated to doing bitchute videos on alt media and a string of LOOK AT ME stunts to remain relevant while Ben has an emerging media company that's highly successful on all mainstream media platforms other than a few demonetization hiccups which actually make him more money in the macro.

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your entire argument boils down to "well i didnt get fooled, so they didnt make it all up". unsurprisingly gross.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 2 2021 11:46am)

Yes lets continue to show your ignorance and make up more weak strawmen.
Surely that will be a valid form of argumentation and won't make you look even worse.

There many examples of antifa attacking people. Its not 'made up', (btw i still do not accept your new definition of 'making it up' to mean 'actually exists')



More blatant dishonesty instead of admitting you were wrong on several counts. Pathetic.

You tried to shift the argument to 'YOU WERE FOOLED! THEY MADE MONEY!!' when i pointed out you were wrong about several things.
Recognizing that I was not in fact fooled and have no problem with them making money does not make that^ my entire argument. Complete nonsense.

Shamefully celebrating the fact that some people were censored and removed from platforms by major corporations does nothing to defend any of your points.

You were wrong and soundly beaten by me. Keep wriggling uncomfortably. You are on the hook.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2021 12:58pm)

your ability to pick up on blatant sardonic posts and take them so seriously that you type a full response as if they're 100% legitimate would be sad if it weren't so fucking funny at this point.

no wonder u cheered when Gavin took Viv's 3 star antifa supersoldier title literally and then beat it to horsepulp.

Quote (cambovenzi @ 2 Jun 2021 17:31)

Finally a shred of honesty. Thanks for conceding the points snipa wants to dishonestly pretend are valid.

bad news for you, freakshow delusional leftists aren't the majority either.

Openly against free speech and property rights = "freedom loving leftists'
pretending milquetoast conservatives are trying to abolish freedom of speech, when you are literally the one against free speech.
wewlad the delusions are strong.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 2 2021 12:11pm)

I recognized you made some sardonic comments that misrepresented my arguments. A crutch for being unable to defend your position.

Now you resort to the 'haha i was just kidding and you responded seriously' card.. i was only pretending to be retarded.jpg

>its funny..haha.. im laughing..im not owned
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But sure lets say all of your posts were just 'joking' every time you were wrong about something and you shouldn't be taken seriously. Your terms are acceptable.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2021 01:21pm)

the fact that after years of me just poking you you seem to continually try to act like im interested in (let alone should be embarrassed by) engaging you in a fact based debate is humorous.

i dont find you as a human being worthy of me doing 5 minutes of Wiki research, yet you type essays for me on a weekly basis. you have quite the opinion of me, and i thank you for it.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 2 2021 12:26pm)

I fully recognize you are unable to match me in any intellectual challenge and run from debate once its clear the facts and arguments don't go your way.

Personally hating me for being better than you is irrelevant and a poor excuse for not knowing what you are talking about. A weak justification for your cowardice and failures.

Yes getting me to post every once in awhile explaining why your sincerely held beliefs are wrong is a big win for you. Sure. You got me. :rolleyes:

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Jun 2 2021 01:19pm)

I'm pro-free speech. I want to maximise it. For everybody.

I also don't want government restrictions on it.

You see the true freedom loving people are the anarchists. The ones who don't just suck the dick of any demagogue who comes along and asks them to sacrifice their freedoms to save them from the brown people (patriot act) or the other brown people (conservative war on CRT).