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Jun 2 2021 11:21am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2021 11:15am)
then u should do research. Native schools in america and canada where children were forcibly removed from tribal reservations for reeducation continued into the 70s and 80s.

i was shocked as well when i took a native culture class in college expecting to find out how to make cool bows and shit and instead got a disgusting crash course into reeducation, how Pocahontas was a slave token girl, and how Dances with Wolves means well but is utterly shit in historical accuracy. I read several books on the reeducation schools and finding out what happened just mere years before my birth was enough to turn my stomach as much as reading Night by elie wiesel.


Turns out knowing history turns you into an america hating liberal. Not because the professors are liberal, but because our history is way more fucked up than most people believe.
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Jun 2 2021 11:25am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 2 2021 12:21pm)
Turns out knowing history turns you into an america hating liberal. Not because the professors are liberal, but because our history is way more fucked up than most people believe.


i'd correct that to an allsidesism centrist, both parties for decades in power across the entire country perpetuated the violent disenfranchisement of native americans. neither side particularly wanted to help them in any meaningful way.

they're actually a strong case for localized government that neither left nor right wants to see come to fruition. they operate best under local tribal government, from both the aspects of government and law enforcement.

the only blip in that radar is the rampant alcoholism and mental and physical abuse that perpetuates itself in their ranks, because again they were victimized as recently as the 1980s.

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I highly doubt this happened 50 years ago.

I think it’s important to get the facts straight here. Something that happened 120 years ago has less of a sting because it was in a different era with different rules versus something that happened 50 years ago. Not saying it’s less of an atrocity but it’s important to apply the proper measuring criteria.


The last of the schools shut down in the late 70s iirc
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2021 12:25pm)
i'd correct that to an allsidesism centrist, both parties for decades in power across the entire country perpetuated the violent disenfranchisement of native americans. neither side particularly wanted to help them in any meaningful way.

they're actually a strong case for localized government that neither left nor right wants to see come to fruition. they operate best under local tribal government, from both the aspects of government and law enforcement.

the only blip in that radar is the rampant alcoholism and mental and physical abuse that perpetuates itself in their ranks, because again they were victimized as recently as the 1980s.


I'm not talking about parties. You know that I never miss an opportunity to call Democrats right wing hacks ^_^
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Jun 2 2021 12:38pm
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The last of the schools shut down in the late 70s iirc


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It was not until 1978 with the passing of the Indian Child Welfare Act that Native American parents gained the legal right to deny their children's placement in off-reservation schools. Some Native American parents saw boarding school education for what it was intended to be — the total destruction of Indian culture.


http://www.nativepartnership.org/site/PageServer?pagename=airc_hist_boardingschools#:~:text=It%20was%20not%20until%201978,total%20destruction%20of%20Indian%20culture.

And in many cases schools remained open beyond 1978, it was just that by that act parents were given the choice to not send children. and that act didnt do much to end the abuse in these schools in short order, it took much longer to clean these up and the issues ran so deep the schools were just largely closed.
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Jun 3 2021 05:01am
You vote left after that.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-indigenous-faculty-call-for-ryerson-university-name-change-and-removal/

Seems there is a loud group of people wanting to erase the a guy who was instrumental in making public education what it is over his role in the residential school system.

I say nay
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-indigenous-faculty-call-for-ryerson-university-name-change-and-removal/

Seems there is a loud group of people wanting to erase the a guy who was instrumental in making public education what it is over his role in the residential school system.

I say nay


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Jun 3 2021 11:53am
I live in a place that is 92% indigenous. The last residential school closed in 1996.

Some praise residential schools saying it was the best thing that could have ever happened to them. Some say it's the worst thing, but everyone agrees regardless it was wrong and inhumane.

Almost all my co-workers went through residential school. All were separated from brothers and sisters who were shipped to different residential schools. No real rhyme or reason for separation.

During that same period in 1970 the Federal Government also started Project Surname where they assigned a last name. That is also in part why up here you have many people from the same family's with all different last names. It was their assigned name during Project Surname. The surname replaced the old tag number reach Inuit had as if assigning a surname was more humane than a tag number also known as Disk Numbers.

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Quote (Knoppie @ May 31 2021 02:12pm)
There's more to be discovered, but kids buried next to schools, where evidence for violence is pulling up, doesn't look good. The scenerio that more have been killed than Canadians like to admit.. (Americans to be more correct itt) Is becoming more plausible, than throwing everything on a flew.


Canada says about 3000-4000 kids died while in the residential school system - indigenous communities claim its 50K+. People are posting stories about ritual sacrifice and other crazy shit.

My stepdads mom went to a residential school for her entire childhood and only has positive stories.
Depends if your school was run by pedos or not I suppose.
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