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May 13 2021 01:57pm
Quote (dro94 @ 13 May 2021 19:15)
The hard right and left wing positions on Israel are both wrong. I vehemently support Israel's right to exist (which leftists don't) while also vehemently opposing their illegal expansion into the West Bank (which right wingers don't)

In this particular case, it's Israel's fault. They stoked tensions by holding nationalist marches outside a sacred mosque and attempting to evict Palestinians from their homes because 'muh ancestors lived here'. Imagine someone coming to your house saying their ancestor lived on your plot of land so it belongs to them. You'd tell them to fuck rite off, wouldn't you Chris?



Agreed


TIL i'm not a leftist, lol. it's such a moronic claim that "the left" doesn't support israel's right to exist, because that is simply not true. acknowledging that they are illegally occupying palestine territory, that they are running an apartheid state, and disproportionally killing palestinians does not mean you're in favour of israel not existing. it doesn't mean you think that shooting rockets at civilians is justified or smart, or that you agree with the extremists amongst palestine political leadership. you should aim to do better. stop arguing like a braindead american, apply some nuance...
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May 13 2021 02:10pm
Quote (Brian_D @ May 13 2021 11:37am)
Well that made 0 sense.

Try again child killer.



You’re an Obama supporter pretending to care about a child’s life. HAHA how about we do away with abortion since you care so dearly for the life of a child.
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May 13 2021 02:14pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 13 May 2021 05:59)
israel's existence has been more beneficial for humanity than that of the palestinians


No. Neither are.
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May 13 2021 02:35pm
Quote (Brian_D @ May 13 2021 12:32pm)
Yeah, kill kids. Great idea. Psycho.


Dude we gatta stop slaughtering children in our own country first before we can consider doing it in other countries lets be real now.
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May 13 2021 02:42pm
If they fight so bitterly for hundreds of years imo just wipe them out they cannot demonstrate peaceful resolution. Like two kids in class.
Or just leave em be stop sending weapons or help.

This post was edited by addone on May 13 2021 02:44pm
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May 13 2021 03:16pm
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If they fight so bitterly for hundreds of years imo just wipe them out they cannot demonstrate peaceful resolution. Like two kids in class.
Or just leave em be stop sending weapons or help.


BUT MUH GREATEST ALLY!!!!
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May 13 2021 03:42pm
Quote (fender @ May 13 2021 08:57pm)
TIL i'm not a leftist, lol. it's such a moronic claim that "the left" doesn't support israel's right to exist, because that is simply not true. acknowledging that they are illegally occupying palestine territory, that they are running an apartheid state, and disproportionally killing palestinians does not mean you're in favour of israel not existing. it doesn't mean you think that shooting rockets at civilians is justified or smart, or that you agree with the extremists amongst palestine political leadership. you should aim to do better. stop arguing like a braindead american, apply some nuance...


Calm down dear, I wasn't calling you out personally. I'm well aware not every leftist doesn't support Israel's right to exist, but on the hard left (Corbyn et al) many do not

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May 13 2021 04:02pm
Quote (dro94 @ 13 May 2021 23:42)
Calm down dear, I wasn't calling you out personally. I'm well aware not every leftist doesn't support Israel's right to exist, but on the hard left (Corbyn et al) many do not


it's more than just my personal position, your whole "the left denies israel's right to exist" point is a lie, a commonly used narrative to dismiss any criticism of israel's right wing government. sure, there are SOME extremists who might do so - but they are clearly the exception. so acting like it's a widespread majority position amongst leftists is ignorant at best...
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May 13 2021 04:05pm
Drop a virus on both countries and wipe them. Grab their lands after that and let's rebuild smarter and better. I'd legit wipe anything but Canada but ye.
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May 13 2021 04:05pm
Quote (dro94 @ 13 May 2021 23:42)
Calm down dear, I wasn't calling you out personally. I'm well aware not every leftist doesn't support Israel's right to exist, but on the hard left (Corbyn et al) many do not


To add to that: a lot of leftists hide their true intentions behind political demands which sound innocuous at first glance, but which would, in practice, end Israel as we know it.
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