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Apr 21 2021 09:28am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 21 2021 11:09am)
You think a social worker can't disarm a 15 year old girl with a knife? That's pretty easy lol. Not safe, but with proper training hardly something you need to call the police for.

You guys act like social workers are all 105lb weaklings taken off the street, instead of people who put up with more shit than cops do but aren't allowed to shoot people.


Lol this. We have had police routinely not come into our units because they can't bring their guns in. We're like you don't need them for a code, they're like yes we do.

I've literally been fighting methed out patients while the cops who dropped them off because they can't handle them in jail refuse to come on to help hold and arm or leg.

We go into prisons, crack houses and apartments, ghetto slums, psych wards, refugee camps, to meet people in crisis where they are at.

Plasmasnake just cups the heel when he is deepthroating the boot now. It's weird people like him think it would be the purge of the pigs quit beating and shooting people indiscriminately...it's crazy that the police are the only thing holding people like PS from actually raping or killing people....which is the only reason one would believe the purge would happen.

Humans existed without policing for the majority of the species' history.
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Apr 21 2021 09:31am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2021 11:24am)
strike 1: calling CO not a swing state is a bit silly, 7/12 of the last Potus elections it voted red.

strike 2: existing laws that aren't appearing problematic arent the same as new laws that do appear problematic

strike 3: there are 15x more blacks in Georgia, with far more below the poverty line, to disproportionately affect

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Colorado has been solid blue since 2008, Democrats have had a solid 5% margin in it since then. That's not a trend that's changing, just because they were a swing state 30 years ago is irrelevant to today's outcomes. So your first point is completely irrelevant.

Proportions don't matter. If the logic is that voter ID laws inherently target poor blacks then that logic has to hold in other states as well no?

I'm sure of that 3.7% in Colorado there's a fair share that is below the poverty line and affected by these laws.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you basically saying that because the laws in Colorado impact a much smaller percent then those laws are okay there but not in states where there's a higher % of blacks?
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Apr 21 2021 09:38am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 21 2021 11:27am)
Thanks for admitting you don't know the first thing about the law you are trying to speak with authority about. I've linked you to it multiple times already, and it seems instead of honestly engaging you've avoided it.


Dude what are you talking about, you haven't linked shit. You keep referring to conversations we've never had as an excuse for not providing an argument now.
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Apr 21 2021 09:40am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 21 2021 10:31am)
Colorado has been solid blue since 2008, Democrats have had a solid 5% margin in it since then. That's not a trend that's changing, just because they were a swing state 30 years ago is irrelevant to today's outcomes. So your first point is completely irrelevant.

Proportions don't matter. If the logic is that voter ID laws inherently target poor blacks then that logic has to hold in other states as well no?

I'm sure of that 3.7% in Colorado there's a fair share that is below the poverty line and affected by these laws.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you basically saying that because the laws in Colorado impact a much smaller percent then those laws are okay there but not in states where there's a higher % of blacks?


if i take a cookie from the jar mama says don't do it again or ill tell papa, if i eat the whole jar i get the belt.

proportions dont matter is the stupidest thing ive read this morning.
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Apr 21 2021 09:40am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 21 2021 10:38am)
Dude what are you talking about, you haven't linked shit. You keep referring to conversations we've never had as an excuse for not providing an argument now.


We've had this conversation at least three times dude. And every time I've linked you the same article, and every time you've dropped the conversation immediately after.

Guess I'll link it again lol

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law

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In its ruling, the appeals court said the law was intentionally designed to discriminate against black people. North Carolina legislators had requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision," the court said.


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Apr 21 2021 09:41am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2021 11:40am)
if i take a cookie from the jar mama says don't do it again or ill tell papa, if i eat the whole jar i get the belt.

proportions dont matter is the stupidest thing ive read this morning.


Calling someone a nig in Georgia not okay. Calling someone a nig in Colorado is okay because only 3.7% of people are impacted.

That's your logic mate.
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Apr 21 2021 09:43am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 21 2021 10:41am)
Calling someone a nig in Georgia not okay. Calling someone a nig in Colorado is okay because only 3.7% of people are impacted.
That's your logic mate.


Because we all know that calling an individual something is the same thing as the state impacting groups.

Are you trying to say stupid crap? Because I'd think saying something this unbelievably dumb would take a lot of effort.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 21 2021 12:41pm)
Calling someone a nig in Georgia not okay. Calling someone a nig in Colorado is okay because only 3.7% of people are impacted.

That's your logic mate.


Lol

You must be trolling
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Apr 21 2021 09:44am
I really dont see a reason why statewide, indiscriminate voter ID laws should be racist. If such laws lead to different outcomes among various racial groups, then the reasons for that shall be examined and fixed (for example by lowering the cost or access to IDs).

Of course it's bullshit if such rules only apply in majority minority districts and such. Or if other vote depression tactics are targetted at urban areas. For example last year, when Texas issued a rule that there is only one dropbox for early voting allow per county, so there was a single drop box for all of the 4.5 million residents of Harris county while the residents of deep red rural TX counties got one dropbox per couple thousand people.

Btw, recent polls show that a majority of Americans support general voter ID requirements:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-oppose-many-voting-restrictions-but-not-voter-id-laws/

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the public strongly supports one of the other major stipulations of Georgia’s new law: the ID requirement for absentee voting. That latest YouGov/The Economist poll found that Americans support requiring a photo ID in order to vote absentee, 53 percent to 28 percent. And Georgians are even more supportive: 74 percent of registered voters in the UGA/AJC poll backed requiring voters to include a copy of their photo ID or other documentation in order to vote by mail. Only 22 percent were opposed.1

Indeed, voter ID laws — which Republicans have pushed for years — are quite popular in general. In another national poll out this week from Selzer & Co./Grinnell College, 56 percent of adults favored keeping laws that require people to show a photo ID before voting, while just 36 percent wanted to eliminate them. And this isn’t an opinion Americans suddenly adopted amid 2020’s specious claims of voter fraud. In fall 2018, the Pew Research Center found that 76 percent of Americans favored requiring everyone to show a government-issued photo ID in order to vote, versus only 23 percent who opposed it.


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 21 2021 09:44am
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Apr 21 2021 09:46am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 21 2021 10:44am)
I really dont see a reason why statewide, indiscriminate voter ID laws should be racist.


A voter ID law that isn't designed specifically to disenfranchise racial groups wouldn't be racist.

Unfortunately, the ones being proposed by the Republican party in the last 10 or so years are solely there to act as tools of voter suppression, and target specific racial groups as a way to do that.

If the Republican party legitimately wanted to increase election security and not do it at the cost of voting access for minorities, they wouldn't be struck down in court.
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