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ok so related question, if faith alone is the only way to heaven, what in Baptist beliefs is the function of Jesus?

elsewhere in Christianity he serves the purpose of removal of mankind's sins through his death, specifically also in Catholicism the ritual of communion is used to do this, also from Jesus.

what role does Jesus play in the Baptist church that God alone doesn't already serve? and do Baptists do communion, and if so how often?



Jesus is God The Son, he is eternal life. He came to be the propitiation for our sins because the wages of sin is death.

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
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If hell is a prison for the devil, how does he get to earth to temp humankind"
In this apoc satan has been cast down and is inhabiting earth in a similar yet different way YHWH once inhabited the temples of jerusalem, his power is now exclusively earth bound, very dark and dangerous for man kind - that is the current condition.
Artificial technology is a conduit for cold demons just as the human body was the original vessel for the warm breath and spirit of god. However YHWH can give or use the things of idles even as Jesus Christ does have the keys to the kingdom of hell and true authority over it.
Even as there is no water in hell the demons on earth are after the "water" of a man. Babylon drinks the blood of saints and martyrs deceiving all and if left unchecked by god then even all but father and son.

Satan historically has entered in through idle and adulterous worship that was technologically + yeast(sin) driven to bypass the natural boundaries of the earth and of man. Picture man in paradise then introduces loud technological and spiritually corrupting devices and being filled with germs and destroyers of his flesh that also allow for fallen angels to tempt/corrupt him. The great pyramids were one way babylon entered in now it's AI smart technology along with blood sacrifices, including abortions and other ways involving ritualistic rights of passage that I wont post publicly yet

why does god send humans to a place where he knows his spiteful enemy tortures them?
Man or the sins of man chose to worship satan on earth which through that free will allowed satan to enter in or bypass the protective boundaries in various ways mentioned above, again, think the great pyramids + eating yeast or the forbidden fruit & aligning w/ the stars that would be the heavenly host satan tried to take over. This is also a historical art depiction in pyramid hieroglyphs.


To answer some of your spiritual questions regarding what truth is all about in Jesus Christ:

A man's heart and imagination are what ultimately matters in his relationship w/ god or YHWH, Jesus christ and the holy ghost or the creator of man's flesh and life.

Noah during the 1st flood was saved for his pure heart and mind, david as the fleshy seed of christ for his kindness to animals (god treated his dominion over david the way david treated the animals fairly). That is why in this apoc the world has to be cleaned by fire and brimstone in addition because water has already been used and water cannot destroy the yeasts or sins that have piled high into the heavens by the harlot of diverse waters mentioned in revelations. Satan is not cast into a pit until well after the 2nd coming. Satan's wife or his "feminine side" is the harlot in revelations.

When you pray you do so privately to establish that connection to god, christ, and the holy ghost. If you choose to do so openly it is best to do so without seeking credit.
You mourn with your heart, mind, soul, you feel with your heart, you love and begin to know thyself and what beguils thyself.
It is the good imagination of a man's heart that has been man's life line in the eyes of GOD, who also mourned that he made man when everysingle man, but a few, have sought evil with the imagination of their heart. Though christ's grace compensates for this many refuse to accept Christ's forgiveness which is ultimately a way for a man's soul to be amended.

The apoc is the worse time because if time were not shortened all would be decieved even god's elect and the prophets.
God created things in 7 days time so man's evolution of his soul takes time as well.There are many restrictions in entering the new heaven or inheriting the new earth this is why there is trial and tribulation in this apoc & why the current time is so unique because satan & babylon have the power to corrupt even the soul by creating synthetic RNA "life" & frequencies (the mark of the beast system and it's power to breath life) forcing all to worship. This worship for most unless they heed unto to my prophecies or study scripture if not receive the holy ghost is mostly unknowingly and unconsciously.

There is a distinct shift in methodolgy from normal circumstance into apocalyptic circumstances. In the apoc now most are forced to worship satan and are unaware a parasitic yeast or sin is controlling their heart, mind, and even tricking their soul by exploiting even the very DNA & flesh. A man can only take so much stress before satan can make even a prophet cave and or die - this is the apoc.

I preach the truth and offer methods to bypass the mark of the beast system for sake of saving any and or all souls from this torture now and later while providing them an out in these extraordinary times that scripture says is the reason for the end of all things that once were.

some ways to bypass the mark of the beast system are:seeking or Praying to Christ Jesus, YHWH, and or to or with the holy ghost. Not a word has to be spoken it can be felt and made known what is needed or what can be offered. Mental images even as man was made in the image - work as well.
Boiling your water, home made grated and boiled teas, mourning, abstaining and from technology, Warm colored sun glasses while at LED light sources.
Grounding currents. Aloe vera, turmeric, black walnut, ginger, cilantro, epazote and strong natural antifungals. Pairing sugars w/ spices. Holy smoke or burning floral incense to purify homes and irradiate germs. Icing infected body parts and or reheating w/ smoke.

IF you want some evidence or proof of concept, get off the technology, the grid and try to reconnect withyourself and the earth and you can then begin to understand the truth of my words and feel the suffering and that the war is the pineal gland vs the parasite and DNA vs RNA. Souls sent into hell are being cob webbed and consumed by Babylon the great or satan's wife. She feasts on souls currently but Christ's Grace, energy, and dna strcuture is subject to healing and revision to compensate for her demonic feasting. Some souls are put back together by Christ when hell attempts to defy even the parameters of hell but cannot be saved there.


Anyone preaching the word of God is either a tortured christian or has been, a prophet but not excluding the former, or the tribes of judah/children of Israel scattered abroad protected by Abraham's promise and pending their acceptance of Jesus Christ. Some all of these things but there is no easy way out in the apocalypse otherwise it wouldn't be the apocalypse. The plagues of the apoc are already here.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Mar 25 2021 08:11pm
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If hell is a prison for the devil, how does he get to earth to temp humankind"
In this apoc satan has been cast down and is inhabiting earth in a similar yet different way YHWH once inhabited the temples of jerusalem, his power is now exclusively earth bound, very dark and dangerous for man kind - that is the current condition.
Artificial technology is a conduit for cold demons just as the human body was the original vessel for the warm breath and spirit of god. However YHWH can give or use the things of idles even as Jesus Christ does have the keys to the kingdom of hell and true authority over it.
Even as there is no water in hell the demons on earth are after the "water" of a man. Babylon drinks the blood of saints and martyrs deceiving all and if left unchecked by god then even all but father and son.

Satan historically has entered in through idle and adulterous worship that was technologically + yeast(sin) driven to bypass the natural boundaries of the earth and of man. Picture man in paradise then introduces loud technological and spiritually corrupting devices and being filled with germs and destroyers of his flesh that also allow for fallen angels to tempt/corrupt him. The great pyramids were one way babylon entered in now it's AI smart technology along with blood sacrifices, including abortions and other ways involving ritualistic rights of passage that I wont post publicly yet

why does god send humans to a place where he knows his spiteful enemy tortures them?
Man or the sins of man chose to worship satan on earth which through that free will allowed satan to enter in or bypass the protective boundaries in various ways mentioned above, again, think the great pyramids + eating yeast or the forbidden fruit & aligning w/ the stars that would be the heavenly host satan tried to take over. This is also a historical art depiction in pyramid hieroglyphs.


To answer some of your spiritual questions regarding what truth is all about in Jesus Christ:

A man's heart and imagination are what ultimately matters in his relationship w/ god or YHWH, Jesus christ and the holy ghost or the creator of man's flesh and life.

Noah during the 1st flood was saved for his pure heart and mind, david as the fleshy seed of christ for his kindness to animals (god treated his dominion over david the way david treated the animals fairly). That is why in this apoc the world has to be cleaned by fire and brimstone in addition because water has already been used and water cannot destroy the yeasts or sins that have piled high into the heavens by the harlot of diverse waters mentioned in revelations. Satan is not cast into a pit until well after the 2nd coming. Satan's wife or his "feminine side" is the harlot in revelations.

When you pray you do so privately to establish that connection to god, christ, and the holy ghost. If you choose to do so openly it is best to do so without seeking credit.
You mourn with your heart, mind, soul, you feel with your heart, you love and begin to know thyself and what beguils thyself.
It is the good imagination of a man's heart that has been man's life line in the eyes of GOD, who also mourned that he made man when everysingle man, but a few, have sought evil with the imagination of their heart. Though christ's grace compensates for this many refuse to accept Christ's forgiveness which is ultimately a way for a man's soul to be amended.

The apoc is the worse time because if time were not shortened all would be decieved even god's elect and the prophets.
God created things in 7 days time so man's evolution of his soul takes time as well.There are many restrictions in entering the new heaven or inheriting the new earth this is why there is trial and tribulation in this apoc & why the current time is so unique because satan & babylon have the power to corrupt even the soul by creating synthetic RNA "life" & frequencies (the mark of the beast system and it's power to breath life) forcing all to worship. This worship for most unless they heed unto to my prophecies or study scripture if not receive the holy ghost is mostly unknowingly and unconsciously.

There is a distinct shift in methodolgy from normal circumstance into apocalyptic circumstances. In the apoc now most are forced to worship satan and are unaware a parasitic yeast or sin is controlling their heart, mind, and even tricking their soul by exploiting even the very DNA & flesh. A man can only take so much stress before satan can make even a prophet cave and or die - this is the apoc.

I preach the truth and offer methods to bypass the mark of the beast system for sake of saving any and or all souls from this torture now and later while providing them an out in these extraordinary times that scripture says is the reason for the end of all things that once were.

some ways to bypass the mark of the beast system are:seeking or Praying to Christ Jesus, YHWH, and or to or with the holy ghost. Not a word has to be spoken it can be felt and made known what is needed or what can be offered. Mental images even as man was made in the image - work as well.
Boiling your water, home made grated and boiled teas, mourning, abstaining and from technology, Warm colored sun glasses while at LED light sources.
Grounding currents. Aloe vera, turmeric, black walnut, ginger, cilantro, epazote and strong natural antifungals. Pairing sugars w/ spices. Holy smoke or burning floral incense to purify homes and irradiate germs. Icing infected body parts and or reheating w/ smoke.

IF you want some evidence or proof of concept, get off the technology, the grid and try to reconnect withyourself and the earth and you can then begin to understand the truth of my words and feel the suffering and that the war is the pineal gland vs the parasite and DNA vs RNA. Souls sent into hell are being cob webbed and consumed by Babylon the great or satan's wife. She feasts on souls currently but Christ's Grace, energy, and dna strcuture is subject to healing and revision to compensate for her demonic feasting. Some souls are put back together by Christ when hell attempts to defy even the parameters of hell but cannot be saved there.


Anyone preaching the word of God is either a tortured christian or has been, a prophet but not excluding the former, or the tribes of judah/children of Israel scattered abroad protected by Abraham's promise and pending their acceptance of Jesus Christ. Some all of these things but there is no easy way out in the apocalypse otherwise it wouldn't be the apocalypse. The plagues of the apoc are already here.



That’s a bunch of schizophrenic nonsense.
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That’s a bunch of schizophrenic nonsense.


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A 3O God is impossible. All knowing, loving, and powerful can't exist in a world with child cancer and trafficking.

Santa for grown ups.

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A 3O God is impossible. All knowing, loving, and powerful can't exist in a world with child cancer and trafficking.


while i understand the argument there is the concept that earthly suffering is only horrid from our perspective. the concept of an infinite afterlife in true infinity makes even horrible suffering moot, in the same way that an infinite hell makes life on earth and its many joys moot.

is a child with cancer who dies terrible? yes. do i have a hard time rectifying that a loving god would allow this to happen? yes. but can i even start to mentally quantify what an infinity of afterlife in heaven feels like by comparison? no. not even close.
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while i understand the argument there is the concept that earthly suffering is only horrid from our perspective. the concept of an infinite afterlife in true infinity makes even horrible suffering moot, in the same way that an infinite hell makes life on earth and its many joys moot.

is a child with cancer who dies terrible? yes. do i have a hard time rectifying that a loving god would allow this to happen? yes. but can i even start to mentally quantify what an infinity of afterlife in heaven feels like by comparison? no. not even close.


Sounds like rationalization, a defense mechanism.

I appreciate your creativeness though.

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Sounds like rationalization, a defense mechanism.


there is a logical argument against this involving infinity you're just not making it.

if infinity washes away all suffering from earth then why do acts on earth decide where you go in the binary of infinity?

i can argue with myself if you're feeling lazy bud.

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This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 26 2021 11:36am
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while i understand the argument there is the concept that earthly suffering is only horrid from our perspective. the concept of an infinite afterlife in true infinity makes even horrible suffering moot, in the same way that an infinite hell makes life on earth and its many joys moot.

is a child with cancer who dies terrible? yes. do i have a hard time rectifying that a loving god would allow this to happen? yes. but can i even start to mentally quantify what an infinity of afterlife in heaven feels like by comparison? no. not even close.


Your argument doesnt really work because "I'll give you good stuff later" doesnt mean doing a shitty thing now isn't shitty. Were not talking about a "mostly good" God in the 3O scenario. Or even a God that is infinitely close to perfect. Were talking about a perfectly good God. Any amount of pain is a contradiction.

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Your argument doesnt really work because "I'll give you good stuff later" doesnt mean doing a shitty thing now isn't shitty. Were not talking about a "mostly good" God in the 3O scenario. Were talking about a universally good God. Any amount of pain is a contradiction.


"ill give u good stuff later" is a really bad characterization of infinity.

also any amount of pain is NOT a contradiction, mathematically. .9(repeating) = 1 mathematically.
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