misread the graph for a moment and thought 10 year old men were cheating on their 11 year old wives

You just proved my point. Millennial women cheat more than men.

Women don't have much value for marriage after 30, that is why the statistic matters.

The fact that you resort to the banal personal insults means you're probably full of crap.

You're going to have to explain that one to the crowd.

No, you claim that it's this overwhelming gap and there needs to be a cause for action when in fact the difference ofa couple percentage points in all likelihood isn't even statistically significant. Something is wrong with you if you are a self proclaimed Christian and got dumped several times. You can find a slew of devout Christian females that are loyal and somewhat subservient at any decent church.

This post was edited by kenw on Apr 17 2021 11:37am

When choosing to marry a 22 year old, you can have at least 5 children, less emotional baggage, and less career entanglement on their part.

When choosing to marry a 32 year old, you get someone fattier and worse looking, emotional baggage, usually trauma from a divorce, possibly a violent ex boyfriend floating around, and most importantly they can only squeeze out 1 or 2 autistic kids. The reason why they are 32 and still single is almost always because there was something critical wrong with them all throughout their 20's.

Honest men look at marriage potential dates as an investment. In no world is a 32 year old woman a better investment than a 22 year old woman, ceteris paribus.



The obvious support for my argument are articles like these where bad choices are paraded:
https://www.yourtango.com/2016298196/how-to-cheat-and-not-get-caught
And songs like WAP winning song of the year.

I don't approve of either gender cheating in typical circumstances, but the trend is changing.

And any claim that sexual immorality is bad usually gets hit with the generic puritan misogyny ad hominem.



At the church I went to, the only two young people were me and the pastor's daughter. The average age was like 50. Maybe I live in the wrong state.

You're not entirely wrong though. Marriage usually works well for the top 10% of men nowadays.

If you are poorer than the top tier, uglier than the top tier, shorter than the top tier, and less interesting than the top tier then as a man you just die alone and are forgotten. Some of that is choice and some of it is circumstance.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 17 2021 12:25pm

Why would you want to have that many kids? Kids are incredibly expensive if you want to raise them properly. The average family should be shooting for 2-3 children. Rich people can obviously afford more and poor people should have 0-1. A 22 year old has no fucking clue what they want in life and having people decide who to spend the rest of their life at such a young age is preposterous.

I'd much rather marry a 32 year old woman who has an established career, their routines set, etc. than an immature 22 year old woman. You don't really have to worry about fertility until they are 36-37 years old and even then the risk isn't particularly high. I think we can get the best of both world's though and I'd say that someone who is 27 years old is ideal.

Your Catholic credentials are shrinking.

If kids are expensive, then why do poor people have the most kids? Having kids is a question of will, not money.

The 22 year olds being immature just because of their age is just a stupid argument. Some human beings are emotionally mature at age 11.

A woman with a career doesn't add any value to a man with a career. It just gets in the way by taking up time and often signifies a woman who is very opinionated. And children raised in day cares show signs of abandonment and neuroticism for the rest of their lives.

The average woman who is 32 has been run through by 20+ men and no longer has the ability to pair bond - often taking out her frustrations on any current men who have low enough self esteem to choose her.

All of your arguments are exceptions that prove the rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule

Poor people have the most kids because they are likely uneducated and likely unable to understand the costs of having a kid. If you're unable to afford preschool, childcare, etc. for your kid, you're damning them to a life of mediocrity.

A woman with a career adds a ton of a value to a man's career. It's called disposable income. Money makes life WAY easier.

Perhaps you should find a woman who has a law degree, PhD, MD, etc. I think you'll find that they make excellent partners because they have their shit together. Your experience with women is unfortunate if you're making these wild accusations. It's probably because you're finding women from red states and I would NEVER date a woman from there.

You only have to read the first book of the bible/Genesis to understand it too.

In order for men to be happy, they have to be honorable and farm amidst poisoned lands.

In order for women to be happy, they have to bear children and respect their man.