Quote (Santara @ Mar 15 2021 04:26pm)
Maybe it wasn't on purpose that the van struck the pedestrian, but it was on purpose that she was shoved to the ground, and it just happened to be into a moving vehicle. What's intellectually any different had he shoved her into traffic? I saw no fireworks in the linked videos, and the only dog I saw was a police dog chewing on a protester.
Literally thrown in front of the bus, that's brutal.. I hope she's pressing charges.
Tbh, these anti covid-regulation protests have been going a bit out of hand, since the introduction of the curfew. Where at first the police were overwhelmed by the instantaneous aggression from the protesters/rioters, without even exchanging words. The end result was a massive riot in many major city in the Netherlands and beyond our borders. It was either stopping the curfew/ or reason with the protesters or adapt to the situation; meaning police should be able to react with similar intensity from the getgo.
Instead of having a government trying to understand the emotional response and wanting to explain/negotiate the curfew in order to deescalate the situation, every politician went into campaign mode: "These criminals need to be deported". (or something similar). There were election ahead!
While at the same time many of these ppl were Henk and Ingrid (average joe), being hurt by their freedoms being taken away, felt poorly understood and were highly emotional on social media steroids combined with boredom... I might be naive to think de-escalation was possible, but at the very least, it might have contributed to it.
Afterwards the intensity these protests did decline, cops acted with more initiative, ie: more aggressive to have more (or probably more accurate: "a") effect. As ppl would expect after such escalations, violent situations for police enforcers and ppl violating the law, happend on daily basis. A few days before this protest, an officer was stabbed in the face for trying to enforce a curfew violation... We praise healthcare workers, but imo cops at these times, are in a rough spot as well and might deserve it more atm.. However, that doesn't count for the cops throwing women under a bus or letting their dogs chew on them while hitting them with a battalion in the face and
shooting bullets in the air as a "warning shot" for not letting their dogs abuse them /e^.. (Women in the UK shouldn't complain after seeing this

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Politically speaking there is more at play. Our elections are happening next Wednesday, during the illegal covid protest, there was an announced climate alarm prostest nation wide (whom did organize it corona proof). Now that was well timed, an effort to motivate undecided voters to the greener/left parties that needed "disruption"
This illegal protest was there at this time, to divert attention away from attention for a green agenda. And partially, they succeeded. Keeping that in mind, it would be naive to believe that aggression was only incited from the police and that this might even be orchestrated to invoke violent videos.
imo, they succeeded and there are (/e: possibly ^^) multiple disciplinary actions that need to be taken against a few officers. Like this one:
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The guy with the fighting dog said "I was just walking there with my pup (12 month old 50kg pitbull)". Police claimed he was threatening to loose the pup on the cop, so they fired a warning shot (in the air).
Ow, there is indeed a guy with a dog behind him.. Fair enough, shot is validated.. Still why letting a dog chew on a guy for so long ?
I mean: the guy is down, arest him or let him run away.
This post was edited by Knoppie on Mar 15 2021 01:34pm