No, I see crime itself as very black and white, and sentencing as a gray area. I believe that black, white, and gray all exist. I don't think it's well-considered to indicate it has to be one or the other. Law doesn't function that way.

It's your type of "law" that allows for "Affluenza" to be a defense. Such things are silly.

by extension im not advocating legislative kinks by law, but am advocating we give more informed reactions to kinks in sentencing who we participate with. this is whats largely lacking in the community of kinks, people are afraid to address underlying issues for fear they will then miss out on degenerate sexual activity. nothing kills the mood like asking how was your relationship with your dad, but maybe thats whats needed to avoid continuation of abuse and allow victims to heal.

Oh! So you're indicating that participating in such kinks is a moral wrong?

If so, I agree. That would have been relatively easy. Just wasn't the argument you ever made.

no if there is not trauma its fine, even tho i find it gross. if trauma is known and ignored, id say that crosses a moral line. if trauma isnt even explored id say thats a small moral wrong, and one that could be corrected within the kink community. and this is an opinion shared by many in said communities. "im tired of finding out partners were beat as kids" is a post u might see in these communities.

But there are men and women who both only want to have sex due to trauma. Prior to consenting to sex with such people, are you supposed to be required to ask, "Are you traumatized? Because if so, I can't fuck you."

Like, the premise itself is not ideal. It doesn't address that different people want different things for different reasons. If both consent, it's fine, yeah? IF terrible things happen, then it's time to deal with the terrible things. Unless a crime is occurring, it's not up to you or I to judge.

required? no, its a free country. people arent required to do all sorts of things that cause moral issues. do i and many in the community think that more communication should be had prior to kinky sex? yes.

what if my kink is lack of communication?

But why? Why should kinky sex require more consent than a simple "yes"? This is where you lose me. I'm very liberal on such things. If you have consenting adults, it's fine.



Informed consent requires active communication.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 16 2021 10:24am

As i said it depends on what you mean by require. legally required? of course not. required or you're excommunicated from the kink circle? no. required so you can if you're a moral degenerate sleep easy knowing your partner doesnt look up and you with your hands on her throat and see her drunken father as she gets off in a way to avoid the trauma of a horrid childhood? yes.

Oof. I can do without that mental picture.

/fin