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Jan 30 2021 04:14pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 30 2021 04:34pm)
Action can lead to mass death and impoverishment and so can inaction. Being anti-establishment for the sake of being anti-establishment is an intellectually weak stance. Bernie Sanders is anti-establishment and I think we can agree that his policies would be SIGNIFICANTLY worse. The crux of my argument is that many competing points of view can exist and most are based on facts. This woman is simply a demagogue. If that's what floats your boat, then more power to you.

I'm not worried about this woman and I don't think there's much spin on what she's said. Maybe you can find an example of that for me. She's simply in a position of power now as an elected official and that comes with higher scrutiny. She WANTED more media attention through her antics and now people are wondering what she said in the past. Turns out she's said some pretty crazy shit. I really wouldn't classify that as a smear campaign...


I'm not antiestablishment for the sake of being anti-establishment, and neither is greene.
I'm against the establishment because of their authoritarian and devastating policies etc.

Posting a comment of her flaming warmonger Bill Kristol doesn't mean I vouch for anything and everything she has said.
I like what she said in this instance.
Of course bad actors like Thor want to pretend the opposite is true.

The assertion that the media coverage is based on honest curiosity of what she has said in the past is about as naive as it gets.
You have evidently bought the narrative and think of her only as some unhinged crazy person instead of looking into her actual views and not characterizing her based on a couple of incidents or old facebook posts.
This is indicative of the success of hit-pieces and smear campaigns.

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Maybe you can find an example of that for me.


Recently there was a lot of news coverage of (D) Rep. Cori Bush claiming MTG was harassing and berating her in the hallway and "targeting" her. She needed to move offices for her 'safety'.
She then called to expel some GOP members from congress.
Glowing media coverage for Bush and condemnation of Greene.

The intended takeaway of the widespread coverage was Wow look how crazy and unhinged MTG is, she needs to be removed from congress! and using the incident to negatively effect people's view of the GOP.
It turns out Greene was recording at the time (minding her own business and denouncing violence at the capitol, of all things) and Bush was the one shouting and created the altercation.

I dont need to tell you whether or not Greene had supportive interviews on NBC and CNN to clear that up. You already know she didn't. The MSM is batting for a different team.
Instead NBC claimed without evidence that Greene called for violence against Nancy Pelosi and other top democrats.
CNN reported on the video by deceptively clipping it short and blaming Greene's 'antics', then repeating Bush's claims that she was moving for her safety

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jan 30 2021 04:15pm
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Jan 30 2021 04:17pm
If men could get pregnant there would be almost zero debate.
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Jan 30 2021 04:24pm
I am pro choice.

It's interesting to see how many people use their tax dollars as a defence to be against abortion yet I have seen little consideration given to the cost of individuals who can't support themselves.

Many abortions atleast from my experiences are taking place within the lower classes. To have another child born into that with no support system, all odds against them growing up to be a productive member of society likley has a higher cost to your tax dollars than the abortion. You have a pretty high chance of another single mother which statisticly I believe is the worst performing group in America regardless of race.

I don't know at what point of the pregnancy you draw the line so I'm not even going to comment and I'll just follow expert advice / law on that one. It's not my field.

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Jan 30 2021 04:26pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 30 2021 05:17pm)
If men could get pregnant there would be almost zero debate.


About 50% of women don't identify as pro-choice.

Support for late term abortion is far lower.

Overwhelming majorities oppose stealing from Americans to fund abortions in other countries.

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Jan 30 2021 04:41pm
Quote (thundercock @ 30 Jan 2021 21:48)
What's wrong with the establishment? It's simply a point of view and set of policies dedicated to the status quo. Some of the views may be deplorable but they are largely driven by reality. The point is that you need to be based in reality whether you're a libertarian, socialist, conservative, liberal, etc.

This woman? She just uses highly charged rhetoric based on complete nonsense. She's not really smeared by the media....they are just reporting on things that she said. When you say crazy things, the profit driven media is going to report it because that's what the free market wants.


Hence, Trump.
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Jan 30 2021 04:47pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2021 04:41pm)
Hence, Trump.


Yeah lol. He only got to where he did in the primary because CNN kept showing his rallies when they had nothing else to do.
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Jan 30 2021 08:07pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 31 2021 08:26am)
About 50% of women don't identify as pro-choice.

Support for late term abortion is far lower.

Overwhelming majorities oppose stealing from Americans to fund abortions in other countries.


No one mentioned late term, even i oppose that.
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Jan 30 2021 09:11pm
Quote (BasedGoff @ Jan 30 2021 03:28pm)
Abortion is good.


From a purely selfish perspective it is.

I can get tons of jiggly tits from this stupid feminist culture and afterward I can use your tax revenue to clean up my mistakes.
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Jan 30 2021 09:14pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 30 2021 06:11pm)
From a purely selfish perspective it is.

I can get tons of jiggly tits from this stupid feminist culture and afterward I can use your tax revenue to clean up my mistakes.



Abortion is good.
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Jan 30 2021 09:23pm
I’m against abortion but for killing babies
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