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Dec 10 2020 06:16pm
Good for Swalwell. Fang fang got it goin' on. I'd do her.
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Dec 10 2020 06:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 10 2020 05:20pm)
My point wasnt that what Swalwell did was super bad, my point is that he doesnt deserve the praise he was given by IceMage. Not falling for a trap set by foreign agents is the exemplary behavior here, rather than foolishly stumbling into it and then cooperating with the counterintelligence agencies after the fact.

"How impactful was the misconduct" is a different question than "how recommendable or irresponsibly did the politician handle his misconduct once it came out".


Is it even misconduct? Banging isn't misconduct if you didn't know they were a spy and didnt turn anything over.
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Dec 10 2020 06:19pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Dec 10 2020 07:16pm)
Good for Swalwell. Fang fang got it goin' on. I'd do her.
https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/christine-fang.jpg


I thought exactly the same thing until I found out Swalwell is married.

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Is it even misconduct? Banging isn't misconduct if you didn't know they were a spy and didnt turn anything over.


The FBI suggests not doing it because a lot of things intelligence agencies pick up on aren't based solely on explicit messaging.

I tend to agree with you though.

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Dec 10 2020 07:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Dec 2020 01:18)
Is it even misconduct? Banging isn't misconduct if you didn't know they were a spy and didnt turn anything over.


True, if you didnt turn anything over, it's fine, although that's still playing with fire.

Whether you knew they were a spy or not is irrelevant though.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 10 2020 07:03pm)
True, if you didnt turn anything over, it's fine, although that's still playing with fire.

Whether you knew they were a spy or not is irrelevant though.


Whether you know it's a spy or not is totally relevant.

If he knew it was a spy and continued the relationship, that's bad whether or not he turned anything over. "Playing with fire" indeed.

If he turned things over it's bad under all circumstances. In that case he's leaky if he didn't know she's a spy, and traitorous if he did.

If he just banged somebody and didn't have a reason to be suspicious and didn't turn anything over, and then cooperated when the FBI revealed she was a spy, then the relationship is a non-story and the cooperation is somebody obeying their ethical duty, which is commendable.

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Whether you know it's a spy or not is totally relevant.

If he knew it was a spy and continued the relationship, that's bad whether or not he turned anything over. "Playing with fire" indeed.

If he turned things over it's bad under all circumstances. In that case he's leaky if he didn't know she's a spy, and traitorous if he did.

If he just banged somebody and didn't have a reason to be suspicious and didn't turn anything over, and then cooperated when the FBI revealed she was a spy, then the relationship is a non-story and the cooperation is somebody obeying their ethical duty, which is commendable.


If you are a high-ranking elected official, running for president and sitting on one of the most powerful committees which is crucial for national security, then you always have reason to be suspicious when a young hot woman with an ethnic background from the country's main geopolitical foe hooks up with you. :rolleyes:

During the Cold War, when an American politician hooked up with a hot Russian woman, would we really let "had no reason to be suspicious" count as a valid excuse? No, of course not, everyone would be telling him what an absolute fool he was.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 10 2020 08:14pm)
Whether you know it's a spy or not is totally relevant.

If he knew it was a spy and continued the relationship, that's bad whether or not he turned anything over. "Playing with fire" indeed.

If he turned things over it's bad under all circumstances. In that case he's leaky if he didn't know she's a spy, and traitorous if he did.

If he just banged somebody and didn't have a reason to be suspicious and didn't turn anything over, and then cooperated when the FBI revealed she was a spy, then the relationship is a non-story and the cooperation is somebody obeying their ethical duty, which is commendable.


It's commendable to cooperate with intelligence to save your political career after you committed adultery with a Chinese spy?
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Dec 10 2020 07:53pm
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It's commendable to cooperate with intelligence to save your political career after you committed adultery with a Chinese spy?


I love how copperating with an investigation is only for political points now. Trump has turned you into a clown.
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I love how copperating with an investigation is only for political points now. Trump has turned you into a clown.


You are suggesting he deserves praise for doing the only thing that is remotely in his political interest. The alterative to cooperating with the investigation is the end of his political career.

You said something that was pretty dumb. It's not the end of the world, you just need to acknowledge it.
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Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 10 2020 07:59pm)
You are suggesting he deserves praise for doing the only thing that is remotely in his political interest. The alterative to cooperating with the investigation is the end of his political career.

You said something that was pretty dumb. It's not the end of the world, you just need to acknowledge it.


Somebody cooperating with an investigation is expected and the ethical thing to do. Theres nothing dumb about what I said, you're just desparate.
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