Don't really understand why there are such extremes on both sides of these discussions

high-risk people - take the vaccine because your life and health depend on it.

low-risk - it's your call to take it or not. Should be encouraged but at the end of the day, it should be treated like the flu vaccine for these people.


If the high-risk people are getting vaccinated then the argument that the low-risk people are putting others' lives in danger kind of falls apart in my eyes.

Pretty much. I'm in the 0 risk category. I don't need their poison to make them richer. If you see someone freaking out, it's mostly someone uneducated scared shitless because he's now living out of his comfort zone. If we could see the face of everyone arguing in the youtube comments, d2jsp and all these other forums, you'd see people like me who's healthy argue with people who are far from optimal.

The amount of stupid ppl who smoke/drink i see being scared of the virus and who'd force vaccination on people because of their poor life choices = crazy.

I think we're due for a clean up as a civilization and it's not a bad thing.

Yeah, but most medications don't also include 5G nanochips.

I'm sure the vaccine will actually help the people at risk. I don't think there's reptilian who want to nanochip everyone. I personally don't need it. I believe you vaccinate the people at risk, health workers and you good to go. Usually we fight viruses daily. That's what antibodies are there for. That's why i often tell people it's important to eat well, sleep well and exercise enough. Smoking and drinking is the worst thing you could do to your body unless you have a glass of red wine here and there. Still i don't believe it's needed. Many healthy ways to be on top of it health wise.

The real problem outside of this huge "covid crisis" is the amount of smokers, the amount of people who'd rather eat at a fast food joint over cooking a healthy meal for themselve/their family/kids. Just look at the amount of obese kids because their parents didn't know better or didn't know how to raise a kid properly. People who instead of eating good food will eat frozen food while drinking shit with sugars in it. I'm annoyed by the amount of people finding satisfaction in doing things that harm them slowly one day at a time. I'm even more annoyed when these people get scared because of something they see on tv and force people to STFU AND OBEY when they shat on their health their whole life .

There's nurses in my surrounding and even them claim it's out of proportion. Sure there's a target audience at risk like they would be at risk against a huge strain of flu or any virus affecting the lungs that's who you vaccinate twice.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Dec 9 2020 02:18pm

A majority of americans are deficient. Why wouldnt it be relevant?

95% successfully inoculated, which means for the 5% that it isn't successful for, those people then have "99.3% survival rate." That means that instead of 7,000 people per million dying, we could bring it down to 350 people per million.

Dont teach him math and common sense, he literally says that he only cares for himself, yet at the same time he says as long as it's not his close friends and immediate family. He fails to see what is wrong here lmao.

This post was edited by Secksii on Dec 9 2020 03:43pm

Ding ding

And of course, that's just linear math, and doesn't take into account a precipitous drop in the R-naught transmissibility rate.

There's a wide gap between "relavent" and "about as effective as a vaccine"



Because low risk people spread it to high risk people, and there are far more low risk people than high risk people which still results in overwhelming the medical facilities if they are massively infected.

I get it, you're not associated with healthcare. You're not an epidemiologist. You have a job and a family and don't have time to look into it. It's not a personal slight that you have a wrong opinion on vaccination. It is, however, a personal slight that you don't listen to people who do have those qualifications and who are associated with medical care.