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Nov 5 2020 02:28pm
Quote (GLYC123 @ Nov 5 2020 02:27pm)
Pretty sure that it has never been proven that they have fabricated evidence.


Then you are too ignorant to be taken seriously. They have been caught at least half a dozen times fabricating evidence.
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Bro that is not how it works LOL


That is quite literally how it works. The media does not call elections. The popular vote does not determine elections. Only if/when the candidate concedes the race does this happen.

If the candidate does not concede for any reason (challenging states in court, etc.) then it falls to the EC vote. The electoral voters do not always (though they usually do) vote in line with the popular vote.

Faithless electors can bring more lawsuits into the mix, pushing it up to the December 14th deadline. If the next president is not decided by the 14th of December 2020, then election of the President falls on the House of Representatives, and the Vice President on the Senate. Each state's house delegation gets 1 vote towards president. Not 1 vote per rep, 1 vote per delegation. The senate gets a full vote on the President. This opens the possibility that if Biden and Trump were both to delay things, you could potentially end up with Biden or Harris as President, and most likely Pence would remain Vice, due to republican senate majority.

Maybe you should read into how it actually works before making blanket stupid statements.

Quote (Skinned @ Nov 5 2020 12:16pm)
Pretty sure the Constitution leaves it up to the states to manage their own elections.


This is correct.
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Then you are too ignorant to be taken seriously. They have been caught at least half a dozen times fabricating evidence.


Right. Can't say I believe that. Sounds like they actually do try to do the right thing. And it should be investigated, that's all I'm saying.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Nov 5 2020 02:35pm
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Quote (GLYC123 @ Nov 5 2020 03:27pm)
Pretty sure that it has never been proven that they have fabricated evidence.


Google the ACORN tapes. Hilarious. I love his pimp costume. He is like a right wing Sasha Cohen as far as making characters, mess with people, edit it to make them look bad.

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Then you are too ignorant to be taken seriously. They have been caught at least half a dozen times fabricating evidence.


When? They've clearly set up an entrapment scheme or three. But fabrication? Can you point to 1 instance with proof?

I'm not saying they're the greatest source due to entrapment tactics. But absolutely do not know what you're talking about regarding fabrication.

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That is quite literally how it works. The media does not call elections. The popular vote does not determine elections. Only if/when the candidate concedes the race does this happen.

If the candidate does not concede for any reason (challenging states in court, etc.) then it falls to the EC vote. The electoral voters do not always (though they usually do) vote in line with the popular vote.

Faithless electors can bring more lawsuits into the mix, pushing it up to the December 14th deadline. If the next president is not decided by the 14th of December 2020, then election of the President falls on the House of Representatives, and the Vice President on the Senate. Each state's house delegation gets 1 vote towards president. Not 1 vote per rep, 1 vote per delegation. The senate gets a full vote on the President. This opens the possibility that if Biden and Trump were both to delay things, you could potentially end up with Biden or Harris as President, and most likely Pence would remain Vice, due to republican senate majority.

Maybe you should read into how it actually works before making blanket stupid statements.



This is correct.


It was contested and elevated to the Supreme Court, Roberts sided with them in PA.

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It was contested and elevated to the Supreme Court, Roberts sided with them in PA.


Regarding what? AFAIK, the only thing that was sided with was that no ballots postmarked after 11/03/2020 would be counted, but those received up through 11/06/2020 and postmarked by 11/03/2020 would be counted.

I know there was a revisiting aspect, but has it been? Thought everything was still solid on that front. That actually supports the "the State determines it's own elections" remark.

As far as I know, the only clauses that were shot down were shot down at the PA court level, and the dems were trying to sneak in that any ballots that didn't have the postmark should be "assumed to have been received by" which is absolutely not okay, and that was shot down.

Am I misinformed in the PA case, or has something new happened?
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 02:35pm)
When? They've clearly set up an entrapment scheme or three. But fabrication? Can you point to 1 instance with proof?

I'm not saying they're the greatest source due to entrapment tactics. But absolutely do not know what you're talking about regarding fabrication.


Look into what Skinned referenced.

They dressed up as prostitues and pimp, went in and put on an obvious show, the employees didn't take it seriously but played along and stopped them when they asked about doing something illegal, and then they edited the tapes to make it look like they were seriously going in to ask for advice and the employees only gave serious answers about how to break the law.

As a result ACORN doesn't exist now.

They've done this MANY times. They are a wholly fraudulent organization who take advantage of the media cycle and spread their propaganda on social media. They are the perfect example of why groups like Facebook and Twitter see the need to censor blatantly false information and propaganda on their platform.

Don't want censorship? Don't be uninformed idiots who take fraudulent groups seriously.

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lol project veritASS
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the employees didn't take it seriously but played along and stopped them when they asked about doing something illegal, and then they edited the tapes to make it look like they were seriously going in to ask for advice and the employees only gave serious answers about how to break the law.


From the looks of it, the ACORN employees did give serious answers in how to violate the law. I mean, editing things out of context is done every day to target all kinds of organizations, and indeed, the POTUS, and has been done for a long time.

Did the employees give advice on how to run an illegal sex trafficking business? Yes. Did they think it was serious? Probably not. Is it illegal to give such advice? Not that I'm aware of. Is it distasteful and immoral? Probably.

They weren't convicted of any criminal wrongdoing, nothing happened to the employees. They simply lost their funding for being hoebags who'd rather give advice on a sex trafficking ring than tell O'Keefe to gtfo and possibly report him to police.

Note: I'm playing devils advocate here, but this is the perfect example of one of those "Entrapment schemes". There's no "fabrication". The employees said what they said. That's what led to their loss of funding and ended up wiping out ACORN.

I still need evidence of an actual fabrication. Just as with the "sharpee-memo" shit, if it's a hoax it's a hoax. If it's stupid people giving stupid advise and losing their funding over it, that's their own fault for being stupid.
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