Spend the same but with conservative prejudices not liberal prejudices. How many republicans in Congress voted to give themselves money for not growing crops on their land? Lol. They vote to give money to themselves and to their rich friends.

Every Republican president has grown the government starting with Reagan and exponentially. Quit being biased. It's a dead argument.

This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 5 2020 10:10am

I think me and you are pretty similar. Since I'm bleeding heart on the vertical axis but I just have no faith in small government for things like energy security and the environment.

yup, we've been the Gogeta of left leaning libs in pard for a long time brother

As usual, you have no concept of scale. Comparing subsidies for things like corn which are a drop in the bucket compared to things with price tags in the trillions like Obamacare of the green new deal.

Just to put some numbers to it. Fed gov't spends 20b on farm subsidies, meanwhile the price tag to the taxpayer on something like obamacare or green new deal is literally into the trillions.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 5 2020 10:17am

Yeah, we need to keep in mind scale. Which is why we all know we can exclude the military which is only a tiny expenditure!

It's been like 20 years since democrats have been against wars/growing the military. Why was there such a strong chorus against trump from democrats when he tried bringing troops home from Afghanistan & Germany? Why were the democrats crying about Trump not wanting to get into Syria?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 5 2020 10:23am

im writing in yang/gabbard if there’s two morons running in 2024 for each major party (a high % chance of this occurs)

YANG GANG WILL RISE

Military spending, or for that matter, discretionary spending in general, is the tiniest fraction of Federal Spending anyhow. Dems want to take more away from military R&D and drastically expand mandatory spending, leave the rest mostly untouched, where Republicans want to chip away at the mandatory, so maybe we'll have a chance to pay down the deficit some.

I mean, at this point, payment on interest on the deficit is up to what, 400b? half a tril? That kind of annual waste is absurd. You want to fund great and wonderful things? How about we NOT try to run the debt up so high that we're paying $1t+ on interest alone, yes?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 10:38am

the last time we left germany a bunch of jews died, cant be too careful.