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Oct 28 2020 01:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:25pm)
Could you please stop being edgy for the sake of edginess? Budgeting explicitly claimed that Trump's true goal is to affirm white supremacy and to make living in the U.S. hell for every POC. If this were true, it would of course affect hispanics too.


no. he said they want to make it hell for any POC to be in charge in the US.

but i dont care what fender's alter ego said, u asked a simple question, i gave u an answer. im still suspicious on the hispanic inroads, we'll see what exit polls say, but as to blacks its pretty clear. many blacks dont like kamala/biden so bad that they wont vote.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:58pm)
Both the Democratic and Republican party machines are fucking TRASH. They are enemies of the people, they are the scum of the earth. They must, and deserve to be, destroyed. In my personal opinion, civility, decency, compromise and a national healing are only possible if American politics is realigned or reconfigured fundamentally. The class conflict has to become the main cleavage of American politics again, not guns, abortion, race or girls-with-dicks.

Both mainstream parties must be destroyed for that to happen, so that something new and better can be built on top of the rubble. I am not a classical conservative, and have no affection for the pre-Trump GOP. Therefore, I, personally, won't shed a tear if Trump destroys the GOP of old from within, I applaud him for doing so. Similarly, I applaud him for triggering the left so hard that they willingly expose themselves - the corruption and uselessness of 'corporate democrats' and the dangerous, endless insanity of the 'Bernie-AOC wing'.

From my perspective, things were only starting to go wrong when the pandemic hit and bailed Democrats out big time. Instead of receiving the deserved punishment for refusing to learn the proper lessons from their 2016 defeat and instead doubling down on their mistakes, they are now headed toward unified control of the federal government thanks to virus ex machina and Trump's incompetence. Trump absolutely deserves to lose the election, he failed to properly govern and lead the country one too many times - but at the same time, Democrats absolutely do not deserve to win this election.


Truth bombs, well aside from the insanity bernie bit, but lets be fair, I'm biased as fuck lol. I originally supported Trump because I thought he would ruin the Republican party, I just didn't think he would bring the rest of the country down with it :lol: Expected it to be more of a 50/50 rift causing the party to just lose overall power, rather than it being more of a overall shift into lunacy.

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Florida. I already linked an article to a reputable website citing various polls which support my point.


Yeah south Florida don't have me sittin too comfortable this election cycle. His potential in the Hispanic community here are pretty significant.

This post was edited by Mangix on Oct 28 2020 01:35pm
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Oct 28 2020 01:29pm
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dude, part of trump's campaign for 2016 was to deter millions of black voters LMAO.

and the ones that are voting for him are disconnected to reality or those who are trying to protect themselves by supporting him.


Ah, the good old "if group XY is voting for Trump, they must be stupid or detached from reality" argument. :rofl:


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also, where the fuck do you see an increase in hispanic and black enthusiasm for trump???

Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Oct 2020 21:27)
im still suspicious on the hispanic inroads, we'll see what exit polls say




Florida. I already linked an article to a reputable website citing various polls which support my point.
Here are two additional articles from even more reputable newspapers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/miami-cuban-trump-biden.html
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article246382830.html

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Quote (Mangix @ Oct 28 2020 03:28pm)
Truth bombs, well aside from the insanity bernie bit, but lets be fair, I'm biased as fuck lol. I originally supported Trump because I thought he would ruin the Republican party, I just didn't think he would bring the rest of the country down with it :lol:


Read two books. One on economics and one on ethics.
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Oct 28 2020 01:31pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 28 2020 03:30pm)
Read two books. One on economics and one on ethics.


Not an argument.
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Oct 28 2020 01:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Oct 2020 15:27)
no. he said they want to make it hell for any POC to be in charge in the US.

but i dont care what fender's alter ego said, u asked a simple question, i gave u an answer. im still suspicious on the hispanic inroads, we'll see what exit polls say, but as to blacks its pretty clear. many blacks dont like kamala/biden so bad that they wont vote.

its probably more of a “lesser of evils” vote for minorities that go with Trump over Harris/Biden. Pragmatic even, see here: https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/i-purely-vote-for-my-actual-interests-black-men-could-be-critical-bloc-in-presidential-election-174237805.html

for minority men in particular it’s kind of easy to see how President Trump’s methods can entice them to vote for him. that and probably seeing he passes criminal justice reform to fix the bullshit laws and prosecution tactics his opponent did which permanently destroyed so many minority families over the yeaes
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Oct 28 2020 01:33pm
Quote (Mangix @ Oct 28 2020 03:31pm)
Not an argument.


Correct. Its good advice.
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Correct. Its good advice.


And what would my goal here be in reading up on ethics regarding Bernie Sanders of all people? If it has to do with radicalization or socialism or something, Bernie is milquetoast as fuck.

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Oct 28 2020 01:38pm
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its probably more of a “lesser of evils” vote for minorities that go with Trump over Harris/Biden. Pragmatic even, see here: https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/i-purely-vote-for-my-actual-interests-black-men-could-be-critical-bloc-in-presidential-election-174237805.html

for minority men in particular it’s kind of easy to see how President Trump’s methods can entice them to vote for him. that and probably seeing he passes criminal justice reform to fix the bullshit laws and prosecution tactics his opponent did which permanently destroyed so many minority families over the yeaes


Plus Trump has helped them with so many things they complain about, like racism, he just can't want to be successful for them, per Kushner.
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its probably more of a “lesser of evils” vote for minorities that go with Trump over Harris/Biden. Pragmatic even, see here: https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/i-purely-vote-for-my-actual-interests-black-men-could-be-critical-bloc-in-presidential-election-174237805.html

for minority men in particular it’s kind of easy to see how President Trump’s methods can entice them to vote for him. that and probably seeing he passes criminal justice reform to fix the bullshit laws and prosecution tactics his opponent did which permanently destroyed so many minority families over the yeaes


if we're looking at it honestly a black woman VP motivates a lot of black votes, and i think that amount out numbers the people willing to vote for trump because of Biden's crime bills or Harris' prosecution record.

and i think the number of blacks not voting because of Biden/Harris is larger than either number.

so new black voters minus black voters for trump MINUS blacks not voting might give trump a slight boost. i still think Biden/Harris will outperform HRC/Kaine in the black vote.
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