Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 16 2020 03:24pm)

They aren’t putting a real package up because they don’t want Trump to take credit for helping the American people before an election which we know he would. So basically putting in there a bunch of dumb shit like teachers funding, non covid related city/state funding that republicans wouldn’t go for.

This relief bill could of happened in August. Kind of a shame democrats want to tie in a bunch of bullshit just so they can point the finger at republicans before an election. Peak political scumbagery really.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 16 Oct 2020 14:56)

He walked the negotiation ending back literally the next day. Then twitted like a mad man that he would sign airline+1200 check like a bunch of times.

How did that subsequent course of events get lost in your analysis?

Quote (Giannis @ Oct 16 2020 10:36am)

For 30 years, Republicans have been bad for the economy.

— George H. W. Bush’s term in office ended in recession.
— The economy boomed under Bill Clinton.
— George W. Bush started his term with an ordinary recession and ended with a huge one.
— The economy grew back steadily under Barack Obama.
— The Obama boom slowed during the first part of Donald’s Trump term.

And of course we’re in economic catastrophe now.

Not coincidentally, standard Republican claims have not held true.

— Deficits have not led to inflation.
— Corporations have not reinvested tax windfalls in their businesses.
— Economic growth has not “trickled down” to the rest of the population.
— Stock market gains have not been coupled to the rest of the economy.

Most fundamentally, Republicans wrongly claim that “making more money available for investment” does in fact cause significantly more investment. (This is how they justify tax cuts for corporations, tax cuts for rich people, removal of regulations, and the like.) But in reality, if that was ever true, it’s been false for decades. Giving corporations more money just increases their dividends, stock buybacks, and/or executive pay, much more than it does their productive business spending. Cutting corporate taxes or lowering regulatory compliance costs, while great for earnings and hence stock prices, does little for the overall economy.

So when Republicans let infrastructure crumble – because they fear that paying workers to fix it would “crowd out” private investment — they’re wrong. When Republicans suppress the wages of our poorest workers — who would surely spend most of that new income and thus stimulate the economy — they’re wrong. And when Republicans resist investing in the education, child care and health care that makes our workers more effective or freer to work, they’re even more in the wrong.

That’s all horrid enough, but Trump-style Republicans add a terrible new error: They oppose immigration. Immigrants are our hardest workers at our worst jobs. Immigrants provide energy and leadership for our greatest entrepreneurial successes. And immigrants comprise many of the engineers and other skilled workers who help our hottest job creating businesses grow. Many of our most productive people are immigrants … and the rest are descended from immigrants of the past.

Quote (Skinned @ Oct 16 2020 02:26pm)

Again, the time for these negotiations was months ago not two weeks before the election because you're cramming for the exam and haven't studied.

And he said no a week ago. Why doesn't that mean anything? Why should they engage this erratic man who is labile AF and who will change his mind and probably veto something he wanted?

The biggest argument against negotiating with Donald Trump is that it is Donald Trump.

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 16 2020 03:13pm)

one good reason would be the hundreds of millions of voters they represent who need the money.

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 16 2020 03:24pm)

Dems missed huge opportunity

McConnell would have shot down the 1.8trillion anyway

All they had to do was put together a 1.8trill bill that was the $ amount compromise with POTUS and let GOP bury themselves

Instead pelosi reminded America both sides are playing games. There is rarely a negative ad run in the country that doesn’t involve her anymore. She is the party poster child for incompetency and GOP have managed to create an ‘incompetence wash’ exclusively because of her. Wolf of all people destroyed her and she called him a gop apologist

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 16 2020 04:24pm)

Dems missed huge opportunity

McConnell would have shot down the 1.8trillion anyway

All they had to do was put together a 1.8trill bill that was the $ amount compromise with POTUS and let GOP bury themselves

Instead pelosi reminded America both sides are playing games. There is rarely a negative ad run in the country that doesn’t involve her anymore. She is the party poster child for incompetency and GOP have managed to create an ‘incompetence wash’ exclusively because of her. Wolf of all people destroyed her and she called him a gop apologist

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 16 2020 04:27pm)

100%

what makes me laugh are the far left loonies who call her sexy, its that "beauty is a construct, bravery is what really is sexy" mentality. she looks like a god damn mummy was pumped back full of just enough embalming fluid to not snap in half.

Quote (Helloween7 @ 16 Oct 2020 22:48)

I don't think many real lefties like Nancy. At least not in the circles I see online. It's mostly very vanilla and white liberal with #RESIST on their twitter that go all YAAAS QUEEEN. She's so bad at playing chess, republicans don't even need to outchess her, she does it all on her own. Kind of like Trump actually. They both could take easy victories literally every week but somehow they just face plant at every opportunity.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 16 2020 04:56pm)

Pelsoi is really good at managing her rabid caucus and maneuvering the rules of the House, but she's a lousy politician. Trump is similar in that he has great instincts for his opponents weaknesses and on how he can appeal to his base, but horrible instincts when it comes to politics and strategical long-term thinking.