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#51
Sep 11 2020 01:16pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 11 2020 12:46pm)
You're still missing the point entirely and I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over.

You'll believe whatever you want, regardless of the facts. The meeting with NK was nothing but a publicity stunt, it did nothing but strengthen Kim while weakening how America is viewed. If you truly can't see how trying to run the presidency like it's a reality show and caring about ratings more than results is bad for the nation, then I don't know why you pretend to care about politics in the first place.

Saying Trump has advisors is probably the most laughable thing you've said though. Yes, he does, ones he ignores and gets rid of if they don't step in line with the cult. Every single of them said he should pull out of the meeting if they refused to discuss a single one of the points that were the basis for having the meeting, but Trump wanted his photoshoot.



This is absolutely true and it's despicable, but there's always going to be a lesser of two bad things. Usually the lines are pretty blurred and it's impossible to know which of the shitty options will be better or worse. With the last election and this coming one, it's never been more clear.


Yea lesser of 2 bad things and Trump was lesser then Hillary. I didn't vote for either of them but I am ok with trump. America looks weak? It makes his choice and his character weak. That 1 decision by 1 man does not reflect on the whole country. I think people just have this blind hatred for Trump. Like I have said before didn't vote for him but I respect the fact that he was voted in by my countrymen. Also again he is not the worse president. I don't really care about it being a publicity stunt. North Korea relations are always shaky at best. Its not even the only thing he has done. Just like every president there is good with the bad. I tend to focus on the good because as humans we do tend to do bad things from time to time. I don't want Biden as president but if he does become then I will do the same look at the good. Just be thankful you don't have Kim as your leader.
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Sep 11 2020 01:25pm
Quote (Theology @ Sep 11 2020 12:16pm)
Yea lesser of 2 bad things and Trump was lesser then Hillary. I didn't vote for either of them but I am ok with trump. America looks weak? It makes his choice and his character weak. That 1 decision by 1 man does not reflect on the whole country. I think people just have this blind hatred for Trump. Like I have said before didn't vote for him but I respect the fact that he was voted in by my countrymen. Also again he is not the worse president. I don't really care about it being a publicity stunt. North Korea relations are always shaky at best. Its not even the only thing he has done. Just like every president there is good with the bad. I tend to focus on the good because as humans we do tend to do bad things from time to time. I don't want Biden as president but if he does become then I will do the same look at the good. Just be thankful you don't have Kim as your leader.


He lost the popular vote actually, so he wasn't voted in by your countrymen, he was made president by the electoral college system.... damn man, you really don't follow politics at all.

This conversation has become way too one-sided to continue. I'm glad you respect him and I hope you yourself never ever become involved in politics..
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Sep 11 2020 01:31pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 11 2020 03:25pm)
He lost the popular vote actually, so he wasn't voted in by your countrymen, he was made president by the electoral college system.... damn man, you really don't follow politics at all.

This conversation has become way too one-sided to continue. I'm glad you respect him and I hope you yourself never ever become involved in politics..


Man you're so smart with your psuedo internet political discussions

Run for office!
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Sep 11 2020 01:50pm
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Man you're so smart with your psuedo internet political discussions

Run for office!


I wouldn't touch politics with a 10-foot fucking pole. No one comes out clean, and I don't abide corruption, so it'd be a wasted effort. Someone taking a steadfast stance on something they know nothing about and refusing to budge when provided with new information, is the type of man politicians love, hence my comment.


E: I'm a dick, but I'm not wrong. If you wanna take a shot at me for that, so be it.

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Sep 11 2020 02:27pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 11 2020 03:25pm)
He lost the popular vote actually, so he wasn't voted in by your countrymen, he was made president by the electoral college system.... damn man, you really don't follow politics at all.

This conversation has become way too one-sided to continue. I'm glad you respect him and I hope you yourself never ever become involved in politics..



Good thing we have the electoral college, or big cities (You know, the ones that have been on and off on Fire the past 4 months) would decide who is president.
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Sep 11 2020 02:33pm
Quote (Donahey @ Sep 11 2020 02:27pm)
Good thing we have the electoral college, or big cities (You know, the ones that have been on and off on Fire the past 4 months) would decide who is president.


This.

Not to mention their stupid ban of Halloween (you know, where they literally all wear masks), sports ban which have proven to be safe, leaving everything locked down. Man I could go on for days. It's always funny to see the 2 sides argue back and forth and take jabs. Some people are blinded, other aren't.
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Sep 11 2020 02:39pm
Quote (Donahey @ Sep 11 2020 01:27pm)
Good thing we have the electoral college, or big cities (You know, the ones that have been on and off on Fire the past 4 months) would decide who is president.


We live in a supposed democracy, it doesn't make sense to have a system where the person who gets the majority vote loses, especially when that scenario has only ever happened twice in modern history, both times costing a Democrat the election. If it was possible to go the other way I could at least see the argument, but if a system becomes negatively skewed to favor one side, it should be reworked.

For the record, I've never said I thought Hilary would have been a good President, I think she would have been shit and I loathe many of the things the Democrats do, but Trump is a joke.

I'll still never understand the argument of pointing out the worst of examples of mankind and claiming anyone who shares any affiliation with them is exactly the same. The small percentage of people that make up rioters are either idiots, opportunistic pieces of shit or both and they, like all criminals, should be tried for their crimes.
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#58
Sep 11 2020 03:04pm
Quote (osseworst @ Sep 10 2020 01:55pm)
Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because of his extraordinary efforts to maintain and further improve international relations for the United States; especially with the middle east. I can't think of a single good thing Donald Trump has done in this regard.


Obama's Nobel prize was like a bad Joke.

Obama was a WARLORD, compared to Trump. Sent more troops to the middle east than any president.

Trump is a saint in comparison and hasn't started armed conflict with any nation. Pulled back troops from the middle east. Started a peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, which he got nominated for. Also helped mediate betwen North and South Korea bringing more peace between the nations. Just to name a few things Trump helped mediate. The only war Trump started was a trade war with China.

This post was edited by Kosmos on Sep 11 2020 03:12pm
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Sep 11 2020 03:05pm
Quote (Kosmos @ Sep 11 2020 05:04pm)
Obama's Nobel price was like a bad Joke.

Obama was a WARLORD, compared to Trump. Sent more troops to the middle east than any president.

Trump is a saint in comparison and hasn't started armed conflict with any nation. Pulled back troops from the middle east. Started a peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, which he got nominated for. Also helped mediate betwen North and South Korea bringing more peace between the nations. Just to name a few things Trump helped mediate. The only war Trump started was a trade war with China.


:rofl:
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#60
Sep 11 2020 03:07pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Sep 11 2020 11:05pm)
:rofl:

Facts hurt eh. Leftists don't like truth and facts I've noticed.
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