But they were caught....

Unless the methods of how they were caught are uncovered we can't say much. Like was it just routine checking against the voter rolls that cuts against voter fraud being an issue since it uncovered the fraud easily, but if they had to do an intense investigation that cost a lot of money and required specific tactics for these cases, then that cuts for fraud being common.

Still, until both parties get on minimum election security for all states it doesn't really matter. States can administer their elections the way they see fit, and if the people don't think their elections are secure enough they need to rally their politicians to solve the problem.

Literally all they have to do is compare votes to the voter file. I'm betting they were provisional ballots that were never even counted, which is what generally happens in these situations. Literally anyone can request a provisional ballot, and non-citizens wouldn't show up on the voter roll so that's all they'd get. Like I said, I sit in vote counting rooms every single election. It's my job. As someone who's entire industry relies on this, I and everyone in my position are super sticklers for voter file matching. I've had multiple people arrested and charged for trying to turn in fake signatures, for example. This shit doesn't fly. And this "gotcha" is a perfect example of how the system WORKS to prevent illegal voting.

ELECTION fraud, not voter fraud, is the main reason we need to increase security. Republican politicians are the number one source of election fraud. It is factually undeniable, and factually incontestable.

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Democrats would lose more elections if there were more security.

So Democrats stall any legislation that would bring more security and shout racism, etc.

Republicans are the ones who would actually lose more elections if there were more election security. Stacy Abrams would be the governor of Georgia right now, for example, if there were better election security.

Did the outcome of that race really have to do with election security though? Iirc, Kemp abused his power as the incumbent secretary of state of Georgia to enact various voter suppression policies which got him over the hump, but none of that had to do with the actual ballots being insecure...

if there is no actual evidence, you just make sure there will be:



7d underwater chess master trump at it again... turning america into a banana republic, lol...

There aren’t any real examples of “lax ballot security” changing the results of an election. Even the 2000 election was the result of top-down electoral interference and not particularly “hanging chads” or whatever bullshit was honed in on by the complicit media. It all comes down to top-down abuse of power, overwhelmingly by Republicans. I’d hope that by “election security” we are looking at eg foreign governments doing demographic studies on our voter rolls and consulting with a political party on what voters to purge and which precincts to remove voting machines. Looking for examples of actual voter fraud is straining at gnats. As Goomshill pointed out earlier, just .0000005% of votes cast in NC were done so illegally in 2018 and those were caught and prosecuted and never counted.

This is laughable. The only reason they get caught is because an outside group called the Minnesota Voters Alliance actually looks for them and forwards the information directly to local prosecutors. They also have to file lawsuits (and usually lose, going up against the resources of the state) just to get the secretary of state to release information that allows them to search. Small population Minnesota has more proven voter fraud than any other state, and we only know because someone outside Democrat controlled state government bothered to look. Historically, non-citizens favor Democrats, which is unsurprising considering they pander to them.

My favorite ongoing fanfic of 2018.

She's worse than Hillary.

i like when its pointed out correctly that illegals are a windfall for democrats and then u get the "well conservative catholic immigrants are actually very much GOP voters". as if the tiny percent that vote that way matter. they're like the Blacks for Trump coalition.