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Sep 3 2020 09:31am
Quote (addone @ Sep 3 2020 04:13am)
Wait you cannot kick people out of your house for breaking contract? There must be more to this then meets the eye.
If tenants who don't pay, damage the property or cause some serious disruption ought to be kicked out immediately imo. The banks don't ease up your mortgage because a tenant is going through a rough patch.
On the other hand landlords can be nasty and negligent creatures also. So a tenant should have a good backing of the law on his side also. If both of them are assholes well then they both deserve it.


Landlords have historically abused the eviction process, so it's a pretty long process as it is, often taking weeks before you can get a real eviction.

However, with Covid, if you allow mass-evictions, you'd suddenly have a good 10% of the population suddenly homeless. Which is a recipe for overrunning most cities with homeless people, and in the middle of a pandemic grouping people into shelters and homeless camps, exposing them to the elements, it virtually guarantees massive spread of the virus among the general public. That's the "more to this than meets the eye". The public need to avoid having massive spread and homeless camps.
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Sep 3 2020 09:37am
Bunch of clowns in here that can't man-up

Lmfao....
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Well with your very bold statement I figured you would have some type of model in mind. Obviously not though.


its called make laws abolishing this kind of trash and redistributing wealth earned by the multi billionaires who run this country to help the people who are struggling because of the corrupt as fuck system we work with and cant choose to work away from

low cost healthcare is not a communist idea. low income housing for struggling americans is not a communist idea

giving people who have enough wealth to literally decide the fate of hundreds of millions of americans on a whim(killing many many innocents) is what should be wrong

but muh capitalism! but muh free market! if ya dont have idea must not be good lol! haha! get a job haha! its thats simple lol!

typical far right d2jsp logic with no grounds in morality or reality
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Sep 3 2020 04:34pm
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its called make laws abolishing this kind of trash and redistributing wealth earned by the multi billionaires who run this country to help the people who are struggling because of the corrupt as fuck system we work with and cant choose to work away from

low cost healthcare is not a communist idea. low income housing for struggling americans is not a communist idea

giving people who have enough wealth to literally decide the fate of hundreds of millions of americans on a whim(killing many many innocents) is what should be wrong

but muh capitalism! but muh free market! if ya dont have idea must not be good lol! haha! get a job haha! its thats simple lol!

typical far right d2jsp logic with no grounds in morality or reality



But what about those who made money legitimately?
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Quote (Kiseki @ Sep 3 2020 04:01pm)
its called make laws abolishing this kind of trash and redistributing wealth earned by the multi billionaires who run this country to help the people who are struggling because of the corrupt as fuck system we work with and cant choose to work away from

low cost healthcare is not a communist idea. low income housing for struggling americans is not a communist idea

giving people who have enough wealth to literally decide the fate of hundreds of millions of americans on a whim(killing many many innocents) is what should be wrong

but muh capitalism! but muh free market! if ya dont have idea must not be good lol! haha! get a job haha! its thats simple lol!

typical far right d2jsp logic with no grounds in morality or reality


No. Its a discussion forum. You lead with a statement saying landlords should be abolished its only logical to further the discussion you would have follow up to such a statement.

As per usual and a common theme among your posts you typically condemn and toss anyone who isn't part of the LGBT community into your right wing category.

My comments are typically from a Canadian perspective and a review of our own system.

Low cost healthcare has a cost. Its taxes and wealthy pay more taxes period. If you think its less even at a proportionate level than you don't have basic fundamentals, understand GAAR , TOSI, Kitty Tax, and the list goes on. Do wealthy people defer a lot of tax, yes, but it gets paid in the end.

Low income housing is disastrous but a necessary evil in some areas unfortunately. An improper system such as the ones in Northern Canada has significant economic consequences for its tenants. When rent is directly tied to your prior years taxable income in creates an incentive to not work. For instance, three bedroom homes here are 24 dollars a month if you have no prior year income. Collect more social security by having children, the more you have the more money, cycle continues to repeat itself, poor living conditions due to no incentive to take care of a property due to lack of ownership, poverty spirals out of control, education rates trend downward and the horrible cycle continues no matter how much money the Provincial Government pump into it.

I a big believer in rent to own models where the rent/payment is in no way directly tied to the FMV of the home making it possible to build equity with payments far lower than a mortgage payment would be on that property. The problem then becomes, will people still have enough to make any equity, even on small payments if power, heat, water, and food already eats up all their income. To that I say, I believe its better that the gov't subsidize those utilities so that people can build equity. Homes here are totally destroyed, the amount of money spent by Provincial Governments to rebuild housing as a result of tenant damages (direct and indirect like mold) is astronomical. I think you would see drastic decreases in damage if you introduced ownership. People take pride in what they own. In addition, give those tenants opportunity to sell back their ownership to the government at 100% or sell their % ownership to another tenant at FMV.

There could also be incentives from Gov't for landlords to introduce this system just like they provide credits like they do to EV companies. Who then sell their credits to GM so they can continue to pollute so they can be profitable enough to have 4 quarters of profitable earnings and get into the S&P lulz. Fuckin Tesla.

Just saying you have corporate overloads dictating everything is balogna.

Just saw the reality comment. Coming from a Texan, to someone who lives in the absolute poorest place in Canada. Get out of here.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 3 2020 04:57pm
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Quote (Kiseki @ 3 Sep 2020 18:01)
its called make laws abolishing this kind of trash and redistributing wealth earned by the multi billionaires who run this country to help the people who are struggling because of the corrupt as fuck system we work with and cant choose to work away from

low cost healthcare is not a communist idea. low income housing for struggling americans is not a communist idea

giving people who have enough wealth to literally decide the fate of hundreds of millions of americans on a whim(killing many many innocents) is what should be wrong

but muh capitalism! but muh free market! if ya dont have idea must not be good lol! haha! get a job haha! its thats simple lol!

typical far right d2jsp logic with no grounds in morality or reality

we have low cost healthcare via the affordable healthcare act; its in the name of the legislation

we have low income housing its administered by the government

who ‘gave’ wealth? you want ‘rich’ people to sell all their stock by force so they can give it away? do you know what will happen to us working people (maybe that doesnt include you) who have our own investments and retirement plans in that scenario right?

asking for a clarification on a proposal is a “far right logic” mechanism now?
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Sep 3 2020 05:03pm
Quote (SBD @ Sep 3 2020 05:37pm)
No. Its a discussion forum. You lead with a statement saying landlords should be abolished its only logical to further the discussion you would have follow up to such a statement.

As per usual and a common theme among your posts you typically condemn and toss anyone who isn't part of the LGBT community into your right wing category.

My comments are typically from a Canadian perspective and a review of our own system.

Low cost healthcare has a cost. Its taxes and wealthy pay more taxes period. If you think its less even at a proportionate level than you don't have basic fundamentals, understand GAAR , TOSI, Kitty Tax, and the list goes on. Do wealthy people defer a lot of tax, yes, but it gets paid in the end.

Low income housing is disastrous but a necessary evil in some areas unfortunately. An improper system such as the ones in Northern Canada has significant economic consequences for its tenants. When rent is directly tied to your prior years taxable income in creates an incentive to not work. For instance, three bedroom homes here are 24 dollars a month if you have no prior year income. Collect more social security by having children, the more you have the more money, cycle continues to repeat itself, poor living conditions due to no incentive to take care of a property due to lack of ownership, poverty spirals out of control, education rates trend downward and the horrible cycle continues no matter how much money the Provincial Government pump into it.

I a big believer in rent to own models where the rent/payment is in no way directly tied to the FMV of the home making it possible to build equity with payments far lower than a mortgage payment would be on that property. The problem then becomes, will people still have enough to make any equity, even on small payments if power, heat, water, and food already eats up all their income. To that I say, I believe its better that the gov't subsidize those utilities so that people can build equity. Homes here are totally destroyed, the amount of money spent by Provincial Governments to rebuild housing as a result of tenant damages (direct and indirect like mold) is astronomical. I think you would see drastic decreases in damage if you introduced ownership. People take pride in what they own. In addition, give those tenants opportunity to sell back their ownership to the government at 100% or sell their % ownership to another tenant at FMV.

There could also be incentives from Gov't for landlords to introduce this system just like they provide credits like they do to EV companies. Who then sell their credits to GM so they can continue to pollute so they can be profitable enough to have 4 quarters of profitable earnings and get into the S&P lulz. Fuckin Tesla.

Just saying you have corporate overloads dictating everything is balogna.

Just saw the reality comment. Coming from a Texan, to someone who lives in the absolute poorest place in Canada. Get out of here.


bold to assume I'm a "Texan", im a texan literally because i was unfortunately born in that trash can state, it holds no impact on my political views and its funny you'd use that as a basis to feel better about yourself

alot of your arguments are just blatantly awful and plenty other users here can vouch for that

Quote (excellence @ Sep 3 2020 05:37pm)
we have low cost healthcare via the affordable healthcare act; its in the name of the legislation

we have low income housing its administered by the government

who ‘gave’ wealth? you want ‘rich’ people to sell all their stock by force so they can give it away? do you know what will happen to us working people (maybe that doesnt include you) who have our own investments and retirement plans in that scenario right?

asking for a clarification on a proposal is a “far right logic” mechanism now?


alot of lies here, you're known to be someone who is unable to have any fair grounds conversation so just dont respond back to me MAGAt
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Sep 3 2020 05:10pm
Quote (Kiseki @ Sep 3 2020 05:03pm)
bold to assume I'm a "Texan", im a texan literally because i was unfortunately born in that trash can state, it holds no impact on my political views and its funny you'd use that as a basis to feel better about yourself

alot of your arguments are just blatantly awful and plenty other users here can vouch for that



alot of lies here, you're known to be someone who is unable to have any fair grounds conversation so just dont respond back to me MAGAt


Okay, so you have no suggestions, no ideas of how anything would be done. It boils down to life isn't fair to Kiseki, please give free food , free housing, free this that and the other thing. I gave you more than fair grounds for conversation and you contributed nothing.

Good stuff.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 3 2020 05:14pm
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Sep 3 2020 05:21pm
Quote (SBD @ Sep 3 2020 06:10pm)
Okay, so you have no suggestions, no ideas of how anything would be done. It boils down to life isn't fair to Kiseki, please give free food , free housing, free this that and the other thing. I gave you more than fair grounds for conversation and you contributed nothing.

Good stuff.


oh yes tell me, the person who has held multiple full time jobs some over the course of years which didn't pay enough for me to be able to afford the cheapest apartments in my poor hometown area how I'm begging for handouts

tell me the person who had an emergency medical visit that now has my credit hurt so bad that I'm literally worthless to society because i couldnt front a 6000 dollar bill for an EMERGENCY visit that i likely would have died from otherwise

tell me that
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Sep 3 2020 05:28pm
Quote (Kiseki @ Sep 3 2020 05:21pm)
oh yes tell me, the person who has held multiple full time jobs some over the course of years which didn't pay enough for me to be able to afford the cheapest apartments in my poor hometown area how I'm begging for handouts

tell me the person who had an emergency medical visit that now has my credit hurt so bad that I'm literally worthless to society because i couldnt front a 6000 dollar bill for an EMERGENCY visit that i likely would have died from otherwise

tell me that


I need to see a full breakdown of your expenditures and inflows to properly determine your situation, in addition id want a breakdown of time spent on each activity each day to properly understand capacity for additional income.

As a person that paid for their education at the same time as they paid a full living in a metropolitan city I find it difficult to understand how anyone with a full time job cannot pay for the first tier of goods and services (essentials).

Once I have the above I can properly help you. As a CPA I do it for a living and work with both the extremely poor living in homeless shelters (volunteer work) and the extremely wealthy.

Feel free to PM details rather than post.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 3 2020 05:30pm
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