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Aug 8 2020 10:49pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 9 2020 12:42am)
bro.. the definition of communism is very specific. Has to do with gov't controlling the free market.. prices etc. and the public ownership of property, and business'.
literally trumps money he put toward farmers to compensate for his tariffs
and the controlling of pricing on medications is closer to communism than rioting.
please clarify what you are trying to say.



Collectivism is central to communism. Not sure how I can help you if you have a learning disability and have some super narrow wooden understanding of what communism is and what that entails. Green new deal, higher taxes, higher regulation are all taking a step towards collectivism.

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Collectivism is central to communism. Not sure how I can help you if you have a learning disability and have some super narrow wooden understanding of what communism is and what that entails. Green new deal, higher taxes, higher regulation are all taking a step towards collectivism.


Those are all regular things in capitalism too mate..
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 9 2020 12:55am)
Those are all regular things in capitalism too mate..


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Free market capitalism and absolute communism are two ends of a spectrum. Neither exist in purity. The thing is, those things being implemented are significant steps towards the communism end of the spectrum. Just because some exist to a certain extent in a capitalistic society doesn't mean that they are capitalistic notions.
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Aug 8 2020 11:08pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 8 2020 06:34pm)
Being united on a nonstarter plan isn't a way to negotiate a compromise. Republicans were 'united' when McConnell was the grim reaper blocking everything Obama wanted to do, it was obstructionism not dealmaking.
If all the Democrats lined up for a coronavirus relief bill that instituted the Green New Deal, defunded all the police and made estrodial injections mandatory for young boys, it wouldn't be the GOP senate's fault when the bill dies

At the end of the day it takes two to not-tango.


Unfortunately, the GOP caucus is divided on whether or not there should BE a bill. Once the GOP is united with their terms, you can begin negotiations.

Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 8 2020 08:55pm)
The legislature has failed. The executive should continue to usurp authority. Terrible precedent, but you get what you deserve.


Unacceptable. If the legislature fails, it's not the job of the courts or the presidency to bail them out. They must face the music.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 8 2020 09:49pm)
Collectivism is central to communism. Not sure how I can help you if you have a learning disability and have some super narrow wooden understanding of what communism is and what that entails. Green new deal, higher taxes, higher regulation are all taking a step towards collectivism.


please re write the definition for us all, and explain how the public ownership of business' and the government setting prices is happening the US right now.
I don't have a "narrow" view of it. You keep trying to make a narrative out of using the term. Communism
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 8 2020 11:49pm)
Collectivism is central to communism. Not sure how I can help you if you have a learning disability and have some super narrow wooden understanding of what communism is and what that entails. Green new deal, higher taxes, higher regulation are all taking a step towards collectivism.


This is the perfect textbook example of a slippery slope fallacy.

These things are collectivist, collectivism leads to communism, communism is bad, therefore we shouldn't do these things.
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Aug 9 2020 12:00am
i remember a time when republicans acted like it was the end of the world when a president ruled through EOs, and these particular ones represent bigger power grabs than anything obama could even have imagined. not that it's surprising, but it never fails to amuse me how little actual principle right wingers have...
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Quote (fender @ Aug 8 2020 11:00pm)
i remember a time when republicans acted like it was the end of the world when a president ruled through EOs, and these particular ones represent bigger power grabs than anything obama could even have imagined. not that it's surprising, but it never fails to amuse me how little actual principle right wingers have...


my favorite thing right now..
trump is such a bad R he made them socialist
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Aug 9 2020 01:06am
Headlines tomorrow...

Trump smacks congress's collective peepees.

:lol:

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Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Aug 2020 00:48)
>its not real communism

only 5 pages in

it’s like clockwork here isn’t it



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